Return-Path: Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.32] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5354231 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 01:10:48 +0100 Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Gl2u1n0041Y3wxoA3oEqBa; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:14:50 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-247v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.177.2]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GoEp1n00g03VDaS8boEq5g; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:14:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:14:49 +0000 (UTC) From: pixelbot@comcast.net To: After Effects Mail List Message-ID: <412345107.12457310.1390349689827.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [AE] layer styles break ADD transfer mode MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12457309_1677175147.1390349689826" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:107.1.199.10] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.0.3_GA_5664 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF5.1 (Mac)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: layer styles break ADD transfer mode Thread-Index: LC/nC9Ra9zI7alxIJuTdqPDd8AwsEg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1390349690; bh=G+kBgwhoK4UHeLnymfSuai+Lzi2+7PfvhyZcYciD+pI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=tKuimWzhDVDVUsxq+NQ2bYB6tbp/6BB9h+sYnoe9FRPm474khcsqgLuvuL//zV7uL 6mfETnESFDzAU3k5Jauf3eBYT/8UPQTdRS/dtHdVOUoKspNMPUif67h5AM7o/GsYg8 /fBng2rXM5jIOwiT/B1t5Eyaa3ChnGHvy1CKNfkm01aB9ZcHplzaCHWZjjNNlrkvtb fpRKPm6MNKY31tNwCnfKDIs/cTKv4t+qoKG50dwu/FioWy6i9AV2KbWfMibyCGTIXa ZaLCf7egWTAwBlZo1nzMXp33gmJ2Mhd34HlST3drf82BCY5/7yYJYc2ZiuDIiXWWDY FnbvsGkYhO0UA== ------=_Part_12457309_1677175147.1390349689826 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit why don't you comp the element in AE and use that as a layer in Photoshop. Either that or fake it in Photoshop - anyone that holds the logo up to the video screen and says it's different should be laughed out of the room. tt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Shipley" To: "After Effects Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:51:56 PM Subject: Re: [AE] layer styles break ADD transfer mode Yes, that's right, I'm replying to a thread from 2009... I've finally run into a problem where the Linear Dodge (Add) blending mode in Photoshop isn't working the same as the Add mode in After Effects. Wondering if anyone knows a good workaround as I'm not finding anything useful by Googling the problem. Details: I'm prepping a complex comp of a 3D logo we did in After Effects at a higher DPI for delivery to a print house as a PSD. We're providing a frame from our animation as individual Photoshop layers set up to match the AE comp. There are some partially transparent light blue particles that are added on top of a light gray background in After Effects that need to be on their own layer. With Add mode in AE, they make the background a bright blue. In Photoshop, Linear Dodge (Add) mode makes them look gray and washed out. I'd like the same behavior between each app. Here's an example of what the difference looks like with a blue box standing in for the particles: http://imgur.com/JkcZ8i3 And here's the PSD I used to make those images if you want to try it yourself: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16325397/Add_vs_LinearDodge.psd I suppose I could make an adjustment layer in PS to recreate the AE add mode within PS, but I'd prefer it to just work the way I expect for clarity when I hand off the file. Or perhaps there's some way to shift the colors of my transparent blue to make it work the same between both apps in this particular case. Any thoughts? Is there something out there I haven't seen or thought about? - Nathan On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Evan Fotis < evan.fotis@gmail.com > wrote: ...in that example Linear Dodge @ 50% is almost indistinguishable with Normal mode.. I'm curious how color dodge would look then. On 18/9/09 03:12, pixelbot@comcast.net wrote:
found this timt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Meyer" At 4:53 PM -0700 9/17/09, Phil Spitler wrote: >This is what John Nack has to say. > > http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2009/06/you_can_stop_asking.html I guess he never had to animate it, inside Photoshop (smile). Quoting from CMG4 page 142: "The result looks the same as Add mode if the layer it is applied to is 100% opaque; there are some slight differences as you start to fade a layer down, with Linear Dodge looking more desaturated or gray rather than "hot". (Hmm...just found a type in CMG4...it says Linear Burn when it meant Linear Dodge...fixed above.) If anyone has another good example of how Add and Linear Dodge differ, I'd love to add it to CMG. - Chris -- _______ \ Trish & Chris Meyer/CyberMotion: Motion Graphics Design & Effects \ books & videos: http://books.cybmotion.com \ projects: http://projects.cybmotion.com \ articles: http://articles.cybmotion.com \______________________________________________________________ +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to
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why don't you comp the element in AE a= nd use that as a layer in Photoshop. Either that or fake it in Photoshop - = anyone that holds the logo up to the video screen and says it's different s= hould be laughed out of the room.
tt

From: "Nathan Shipley" <nshipley@gmail.com>
To: "After= Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Tuesday= , January 21, 2014 3:51:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] layer styles brea= k ADD transfer mode

Yes, that's rig= ht, I'm replying to a thread from 2009...

I've= finally run into a problem where the Linear Dodge (Add) blending mode in P= hotoshop isn't working the same as the Add mode in After Effects.  Won= dering if anyone knows a good workaround as I'm not finding anything useful= by Googling the problem.

Details:  I'm prepp= ing a complex comp of a 3D logo we did in After Effects at a higher DPI for= delivery to a print house as a PSD.  We're providing a frame from our= animation as individual Photoshop layers set up to match the AE comp.

There are some partially transparent light blue partic= les that are added on top of a light gray background in After Effects that = need to be on their own layer.  With Add mode in AE, they make the bac= kground a bright blue.  In Photoshop, Linear Dodge (Add) mode makes th= em look gray and washed out.  I'd like the same behavior between each = app.

Here's an example of what the difference look= s like with a blue box standing in for the particles:  http://imgur.com/JkcZ8i3

And here's th= e PSD I used to make those images if you want to try it yourself:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16325397= /Add_vs_LinearDodge.psd

I suppose I could make= an adjustment layer in PS to recreate the AE add mode within PS, but I'd p= refer it to just work the way I expect for clarity when I hand off the file= .  Or perhaps there's some way to shift the colors of my transparent b= lue to make it work the same between both apps in this particular case.

Any thoughts?  Is there something out there I ha= ven't seen or thought about?

- Nathan



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On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Evan Fotis <evan.fotis@gmail.com>= wrote:


On 18/9/09 03:12, pi= xelbot@comcast.netwrote:
found = this <http://www.lbox.com/images/ps/linear-dodge-v= s-add-example.png>


timt

-= ---- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Meyer" <chris@cybmotion.com>

At 4:53 PM -0700 9/17/09= , Phil Spitler wrote:
>This is what John Nack has to say.
> >http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2009/06/you_can_s= top_asking.html

I guess he never had to animate it, inside Pho= toshop (smile).

Quoting from CMG4 page 142:

"The result l= ooks the same as Add mode if the layer it is applied to
is 100% opaque= ; there are some slight differences as you start to
fade a layer down,= with Linear Dodge looking more desaturated or gray
rather than "hot".=

(Hmm...just found a type in CMG4...it says Linear Burn when it me= ant
Linear Dodge...fixed above.)

If anyone has another good e= xample of how Add and Linear Dodge
differ, I'd love to add it to CMG.<= br>
  - Chris


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