From: brian@totaltraining.com
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Subject: Re[2]: [AE] Integrating Virtual Set into AE
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:02:20 +0000
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Ironic that Adobe acquired a virtual set company (Serious Magic) but=20
then failed to ever develop the software into a tool for AE or Premiere.=
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I guess they bought the tech for other reasons? Keying, maybe?

Brian

------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Kjettrup" <robert@stvmayday.dk>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 1/22/2014 3:56:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Integrating Virtual Set into AE

> > I think its completely the wrong approach. get a Tricaster that does=
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>a live virtual set,
> > or rent as needed. as a starting point http://www.newtek.com/vse
> >
> > doing this all live will be vastly simpler / faster / easier /=20
>better.... and saner !
>
>
>Other than Tricaster doesnt do 3d virtual sets that his client want to=20
>use, it only does a nodal pan on a static image of a studio setup. Or=20
>at least that is the only way to do it in the Tricaster we have for=20
>small live web productions
>
>There are other live solutions that does real 3d studios, with realtime=
=20
>tracking of camera, but they are all very expensive as far as i know.
>
>...regarding the slow nonrealtime AE solution... Element3d does import=20
>.obj, but you wont get any material setup for you automatic this way,=20
>you have to reshade the whole setup. And be prepared to go back to a 3d=
=20
>program and fix polygons that will triangulate (!) wrong in element. I=20
>have found importing the .obj into Cinema4d Lite and saving it as an=20
>.c4d will be read more correctly in Element than a straight .obj. Well=20
>my only real use of the bundled Cinema4d yet :-)
>
>- Robert
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<DIV>Ironic that Adobe acquired a virtual set company (Serious Magic) but=
 then failed to ever develop the software into a tool for AE or Premiere.=
 I guess they bought the tech for other reasons? Keying, maybe?<BR><BR>Bria=
n</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>------ Original Message ------</DIV>
<DIV>From: "Robert Kjettrup" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:robert@stvmayday.dk">rob=
ert@stvmayday.dk</A>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>To: "After Effects Mail List" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-moti=
on.tv">AE-List@media-motion.tv</A>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: 1/22/2014 3:56:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [AE] Integrating Virtual Set into AE</DIV>
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<DIV>&gt; I think its completely the wrong approach. get a Tricaster that=
 does a live virtual set,&nbsp;<BR></DIV>
<DIV>&gt; or rent as needed. as a starting point <A href=3D"http://www.newt=
ek.com/vse">http://www.newtek.com/vse</A></DIV>
<DIV>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; doing this all live will be vastly simpler / faster / easier /=
 better.... and saner !</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Other than Tricaster doesnt do 3d virtual sets that his client want=
 to use, it only does a nodal pan on a static image of a studio setup. Or=
 at least that is the only way to do it in the Tricaster we have for small=
 live web productions</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>There are other live solutions that does real 3d studios, with realtim=
e tracking of camera, but they are all very expensive as far as i know.</DI=
V>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>...regarding the slow nonrealtime AE solution... Element3d does import=
 .obj, but you wont get any material setup for you automatic this way, you=
 have to reshade the whole setup. And be prepared to go back to a 3d progra=
m and fix polygons that will triangulate (!) wrong in element. I have found=
 importing the .obj into Cinema4d Lite and saving it as an .c4d will be =
read more correctly in Element than a straight .obj. Well my only real use=
 of the bundled Cinema4d yet :-)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>- Robert</DIV>
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