Return-Path: Received: from mail-vc0-f176.google.com ([209.85.220.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5355186 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:32:56 +0100 Received: by mail-vc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id la4so642844vcb.35 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:37:00 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=1fY9K9gAuA6lmV5buqyMoOJkPtUsjMabl9mRcdOTm1Y=; b=P4qZoI+pdW6YPJ9QHQlZm8V3ERCQP1jv8hOT4AKCdv7cJZ6xZ3JziTd/HF51KsyTSy P3+6t0XjteChnxISwYqT3rzlwTLFBi/yOi1kMi0gxbkoFzR003BOOVMuydOCqXk5A6Xe aUb5Mkhw8PTglq7XcoIUkskFdhB147nKepfAFd120hCKlfJaDwefFkTrirXfd0nzlRCF XP36TPVXS41PBvq0/AUsDB3XJDETerkA/m2tM5N+gxEKy3/1UZDFwVDm/FAZDsOCFz/W 53gs1ReCHUZ/b2l1ACfxR0LUhuQ+eW2ef4aP3eHpfeqJgV+IkvgCfpfoDYyB1smaVqsz uWwg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm3kDOgVUI6vvGIbGDklIugRXKkNudqMSX7yUQ8uSd3C0BR7wcXd/k3VH1f7u1a+7As6xJy X-Received: by 10.58.226.163 with SMTP id rt3mr2840862vec.34.1390433820602; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:37:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.68.138 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:36:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Robert Kjettrup Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:36:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Colorama To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6aed4f6085404f0979964 --047d7bd6aed4f6085404f0979964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for that Brian... i dont know why i never tried any modifiers when using that gradient, the shift key of course... doh! And the other modifiers are actually quite brilliant design, very useful. Now i want those in the regular gradients in AE... and PS too :-D - Robert 2014/1/23 > It's a circular gradient because at heart, it started out as a > color-cycling plugin and the circle was the best way to generate seamless > cycles. > > As for precision, add the shift key when dragging the color points to snap > to compass points. You can even snap two triangles to the same compass > point, and set one on the right and one on the left, once you get the hang > of the shift key. You can always undo to get a triangle back to a previous > point. Multiple undos are supported. > > Command-drag a triangle to copy it... and add the command key after you > start dragging to turn the triangle into a sampler tool... useful for > "gamma-style" adjustments between any two colors. > > There's a lot of functionality in that little circle if you are willing to > dig a little. :) > > Brian > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Robert Kjettrup" > To: "After Effects Mail List" > Sent: 1/22/2014 6:08:11 PM > Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Colorama > > > Colorama is quite a powerful tool to remap channels with a gradient and > use other channels to drive it... > But just like Andrew i really dont like that Colorama uses the default > terrible OS colorpicker instead of the much nicer Adobe one. > > And the not very good UI design of the circle color ramp (sorry Brian), it > is so easy to by accident move one point from 0 to some other value, and > you cant be sure if you get it back at exact 0, only guessing and hoping by > dragging the point back and watch the image, hoping that it wont set on a > value that is 0,023. > > It would have been a much better design with just a liniar gradient. I can > see the point in the circular gradient UI when using some of the more > exotic gradients that flow through colors, but in most cases i dont see the > point other than for looking more fancyful :-) > > Does Adobe own the source code for these old effects now, or are they just > licensed like the bundled CC effects? > > > - Robert > > > > 2014/1/22 > >> I just used Colorama on a project to make a "sawtooth" gradient... >> super-simple with Colorama, complicated with any other AE tool. >> >> Like Andrew, I use Colorama almost every day, but I might be biased. >> >> Brian >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Andrew Embury" >> To: "After Effects Mail List" >> Sent: 1/22/2014 5:16:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [AE] Colorama >> >> >> Hey Jim, >> >> Glad you asked! There are several uses that I use Colorama for that I >> don't think I could ever go without. >> >> Things I use Colorama for: >> >> - Make a matte from footage >> - A range selection tool >> - Animated colour cycles >> - Changing the colour of a gradient quickly and efficiently / removing >> the gradients interpolation (no stepping) >> - Colour grading >> - Adding colour values to different parts of the image based on >> (luminance, alpha, hue, etc.) >> >> Take care! >> >> - Andrew >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >> >>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Andrew Embury wrote: >>> >>> > You see, I use Colorama on a near daily basis >>> >>> >>> I'm curious about this. I rarely use Colorama, and it looks like it >>> does a lot of things, but I haven't taken the time to explore it much. >>> >>> What does it do that you find so useful as to use it "on a near daily >>> basis?" >>> >>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> >> > --047d7bd6aed4f6085404f0979964 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for that Brian...

i dont know why i never tried any modifiers when using that gradient, the = shift key of course... doh!


And the= other modifiers are actually quite brilliant design, very useful. Now i wa= nt those in the regular gradients in AE... and PS too :-D

- Robert


2014/1/23 <brian@totaltraining.c= om>
It's a circular gradient because at heart, it started out as a col= or-cycling plugin and the circle was the best way to generate seamless cycl= es.
=A0
As for precision, add the shift key when dragging the color points to = snap to compass points. You can even snap two triangles to the same compass= point, and set one on the right and one on the left, once you get the hang= of the shift key. You can always undo to get a triangle back to a previous= point. Multiple undos are supported.
=A0
Command-drag a triangle to copy it... and add the command key after yo= u start dragging to turn the triangle into a sampler tool... useful for &qu= ot;gamma-style" adjustments=A0between any two colors.=A0

There&= #39;s a lot of functionality in that little circle if you are willing to di= g a little. :)

Brian
=A0
------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Kjettrup" <robert@stvmayday.dk>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 1/22/2014 6:08:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Colorama
=A0
Colorama is quite a powerful tool to remap channels with a= gradient and use other channels to drive it...=A0=20
But just like Andrew i really dont like that Colorama uses the default= terrible OS colorpicker instead of the much nicer Adobe one.=A0

And the not very good UI design of the circle color ramp (sorry Brian)= , it is so easy to by accident move one point from 0 to some other value, a= nd you cant be sure if you get it back at exact 0, only guessing and hoping= by dragging the point back and watch the image, hoping that it wont set on= a value that is 0,023.=A0

It would have been a much better design with just a liniar gradient. I= can see the point in the circular gradient UI when using some of the more = exotic gradients that flow through colors, but in most cases i dont see the= point other than for looking more fancyful :-)

Does Adobe own the source code for these old effects now, or are they = just licensed like the bundled CC effects?


- Robert=A0



2014/1/22 <brian@totaltraining.com>= ;
I just used Colorama on a project to make a "sawtooth" gradi= ent... super-simple with Colorama, complicated with any other AE tool.
=A0
Like Andrew, I use Colorama almost every day, but I might be biased.
=A0
Brian
=A0
------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrew Embury" <aembury@gmail.com>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 1/22/2014 5:16:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Colorama
=A0
Hey Jim,=20

Glad you asked! There are several uses that I use Colorama for that I = don't think I could ever go without.

Things I use Colorama for:

- Make a matte from footage
- =A0A range selection tool
- Animated colour cycles
- Changing the colour of a gradient quickly and efficiently / removing= the gradients interpolation (no stepping)
- Colour grading
- Adding colour values to different parts of the image based on (lumin= ance, alpha, hue, etc.)

Take care!

- Andrew



On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcu= rtis@me.com> wrote:
On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Andrew Embury <aembury@gmail.com> wrote:

>= ; You see, I use Colorama on a near daily basis


I'm cu= rious about this. =A0I rarely use Colorama, and it looks like it does a lot= of things, but I haven't taken the time to explore it much.

What does it do that you find so useful as to use it "on a near da= ily basis?"



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