Return-Path: Received: from dub0-omc4-s14.dub0.hotmail.com ([157.55.2.89] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5355504 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:35:50 +0100 Received: from DUB128-DS10 ([157.55.2.71]) by dub0-omc4-s14.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 03:39:57 -0800 X-TMN: [phk4ic0OTtqDZVvK90uxtDMiHIdcq/Uh] X-Originating-Email: [sundstedt@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Return-Path: sundstedt@hotmail.com From: Anders Sundstedt To: "After Effects Mail List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Colorama Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:39:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A4_01CF182F.D76713E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3508.205 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3508.205 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2014 11:39:57.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7492BA0:01CF182F] ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01CF182F.D76713E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes that would be really nice for learning Colorama. From: Jim Curtis=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:46 PM To: After Effects Mail List=20 Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Colorama I'd love to see a tutorial.=20 On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:44 PM, brian@totaltraining.com wrote: Clearly I need to update my Colorama training. :) ------ Original Message ------ From: "Robert Kjettrup" To: "After Effects Mail List" Sent: 1/22/2014 6:36:40 PM Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Colorama Thanks for that Brian... i dont know why i never tried any modifiers when using that = gradient, the shift key of course... doh! And the other modifiers are actually quite brilliant design, very = useful. Now i want those in the regular gradients in AE... and PS too = :-D - Robert 2014/1/23 It's a circular gradient because at heart, it started out as a = color-cycling plugin and the circle was the best way to generate = seamless cycles. As for precision, add the shift key when dragging the color points = to snap to compass points. You can even snap two triangles to the same = compass point, and set one on the right and one on the left, once you = get the hang of the shift key. You can always undo to get a triangle = back to a previous point. Multiple undos are supported. Command-drag a triangle to copy it... and add the command key = after you start dragging to turn the triangle into a sampler tool... = useful for "gamma-style" adjustments between any two colors.=20 There's a lot of functionality in that little circle if you are = willing to dig a little. :) Brian ------ Original Message ------ From: "Robert Kjettrup" To: "After Effects Mail List" Sent: 1/22/2014 6:08:11 PM Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Colorama Colorama is quite a powerful tool to remap channels with a = gradient and use other channels to drive it... =20 But just like Andrew i really dont like that Colorama uses the = default terrible OS colorpicker instead of the much nicer Adobe one.=20 And the not very good UI design of the circle color ramp (sorry = Brian), it is so easy to by accident move one point from 0 to some other = value, and you cant be sure if you get it back at exact 0, only guessing = and hoping by dragging the point back and watch the image, hoping that = it wont set on a value that is 0,023.=20 It would have been a much better design with just a liniar = gradient. I can see the point in the circular gradient UI when using = some of the more exotic gradients that flow through colors, but in most = cases i dont see the point other than for looking more fancyful :-) Does Adobe own the source code for these old effects now, or are = they just licensed like the bundled CC effects? - Robert=20 2014/1/22 I just used Colorama on a project to make a "sawtooth" = gradient... super-simple with Colorama, complicated with any other AE = tool. Like Andrew, I use Colorama almost every day, but I might be = biased. Brian ------ Original Message ------ From: "Andrew Embury" To: "After Effects Mail List" Sent: 1/22/2014 5:16:47 PM Subject: Re: [AE] Colorama Hey Jim,=20 Glad you asked! There are several uses that I use Colorama = for that I don't think I could ever go without. Things I use Colorama for: - Make a matte from footage - A range selection tool - Animated colour cycles - Changing the colour of a gradient quickly and efficiently = / removing the gradients interpolation (no stepping) - Colour grading - Adding colour values to different parts of the image based = on (luminance, alpha, hue, etc.) Take care! - Andrew On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Jim Curtis = wrote: On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Andrew Embury = wrote: > You see, I use Colorama on a near daily basis I'm curious about this. I rarely use Colorama, and it = looks like it does a lot of things, but I haven't taken the time to = explore it much. What does it do that you find so useful as to use it "on a = near daily basis?" +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to = ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01CF182F.D76713E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes that would be really nice for learning Colorama.
From: Jim Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Re[2]: [AE]=20 Colorama
 
I'd=20 love to see a tutorial.=20
 
 
On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:44 PM, brian@totaltraining.com=20 wrote:

Clearly I need to update my Colorama training. :)
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Kjettrup" <robert@stvmayday.dk>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 1/22/2014 6:36:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Colorama
 
Thanks for that Brian...
 
i dont know why i never tried any modifiers when using that = gradient,=20 the shift key of course... doh!
 
 
And the other modifiers are actually quite brilliant design, = very=20 useful. Now i want those in the regular gradients in AE... and PS = too=20 :-D
 
- Robert
 
 
2014/1/23 <brian@totaltraining.com>
It's a circular gradient because at heart, it started out as = a=20 color-cycling plugin and the circle was the best way to generate = seamless=20 cycles.
 
As for precision, add the shift key when dragging the color = points to=20 snap to compass points. You can even snap two triangles to the = same=20 compass point, and set one on the right and one on the left, once = you get=20 the hang of the shift key. You can always undo to get a triangle = back to a=20 previous point. Multiple undos are supported.
 
Command-drag a triangle to copy it... and add the command key = after=20 you start dragging to turn the triangle into a sampler tool... = useful for=20 "gamma-style" adjustments between any two colors.

There's = a lot of=20 functionality in that little circle if you are willing to dig a = little.=20 :)

Brian
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Kjettrup" <robert@stvmayday.dk>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 1/22/2014 6:08:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Colorama
 
Colorama is quite a powerful tool to remap = channels with a=20 gradient and use other channels to drive it... =20
But just like Andrew i really dont like that Colorama uses = the=20 default terrible OS colorpicker instead of the much nicer Adobe = one.=20
 
And the not very good UI design of the circle color ramp = (sorry=20 Brian), it is so easy to by accident move one point from 0 to = some other=20 value, and you cant be sure if you get it back at exact 0, only = guessing=20 and hoping by dragging the point back and watch the image, = hoping that=20 it wont set on a value that is 0,023.
 
It would have been a much better design with just a liniar=20 gradient. I can see the point in the circular gradient UI when = using=20 some of the more exotic gradients that flow through colors, but = in most=20 cases i dont see the point other than for looking more fancyful=20 :-)
 
Does Adobe own the source code for these old effects now, = or are=20 they just licensed like the bundled CC effects?
 
 
- Robert
 
 
 
2014/1/22 <brian@totaltraining.com>
I just used Colorama on a project to make a "sawtooth"=20 gradient... super-simple with Colorama, complicated with any = other AE=20 tool.
 
Like Andrew, I use Colorama almost every day, but I might = be=20 biased.
 
Brian
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrew Embury" <aembury@gmail.com>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 1/22/2014 5:16:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Colorama
 
Hey Jim,=20
 
Glad you asked! There are several uses that I use = Colorama for=20 that I don't think I could ever go without.
 
Things I use Colorama for:
 
- Make a matte from footage
-  A=20 range selection tool
- Animated colour cycles
- Changing the colour of a gradient quickly and = efficiently /=20 removing the gradients interpolation (no stepping)
- Colour grading
- Adding colour values to different parts of the image = based on=20 (luminance, alpha, hue, etc.)
 
Take care!
 
- Andrew
 


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM, = Jim=20 Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Andrew Embury <aembury@gmail.com>=20 wrote:

> You see, I use Colorama on a near daily = basis


I'm curious about this.  I = rarely use=20 Colorama, and it looks like it does a lot of things, but I = haven't=20 taken the time to explore it much.

What does it do = that you=20 find so useful as to use it "on a near daily=20 basis?"



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