Return-Path: Received: from uzume.oderland.com ([91.201.63.146] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5375492 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:06:02 +0100 Received: from [46.194.139.49] (port=64381 helo=[192.168.0.120]) by uzume.oderland.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WDysB-000IeM-Vp for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:10:48 +0100 From: Tobias Lind Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4A324C83-8F0A-49A8-B185-0F551D0FE87F" Message-Id: <87FC4D66-3035-4117-B1DA-0D30C6CA6F75@tobiaslind.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Getting work through a company Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:10:48 +0100 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - uzume.oderland.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tobiaslind.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: uzume.oderland.com: authenticated_id: tobias@tobiaslind.com --Apple-Mail=_4A324C83-8F0A-49A8-B185-0F551D0FE87F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Also, it depends on what kind of company it is. If it's an advertising agency or similar (that's not pooling talent) I = doubt that they're explicitly asking for a cut on the deal. It might just be that it's a service to their clients to provide these = skills and at the same not be bothered with the nitty gritty. Have they asked for a percentage?=20 If not, ask them how they usually handle these projects. / Tobias On Feb 13, 2014, at 16:53 , Greg Balint = wrote: > I've done 10% in the past.. I've heard some people do 20%. Definitely = only a one time thing. Unless they bring another new client your way. >=20 > Really depends on the budget. If your client doesn't know the actual = budget , then just figure what it was worth for you. Say the project is = $10,000. $1,000 - $1,500would be a nice kick back for them. $2,000 would = feel like a considerable chunk of the pie. If the project was only like = $1,000 then maybe $100. But at that point It's kinda petty cash for a = larger business. But it does show your gratitude. >=20 > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > =20 >=20 > On Feb 13, 2014 7:23 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" = wrote: > Hi, > =20 > I know this is not a question about AE, but as a freelancer I wanted = to ask=20 > for advise on this. So don't feel you need to read or reply to this = one. > =20 > I have been contacted by a company that would give my details directly = to their clients that are interested in=20 >=20 > animated video, as they have clients asking for it and they don't = create animated video themselves. > =20 > Now how much of my price/quote of a project would you say is fair to = pay the company who helped me get this work? >=20 > =20 > It's not someone I have worked with before or a friend that I would = expect to just give away work to me for free. > =20 > Let's say I would be willing to pay him a certain % of the price for = getting me the work. >=20 > =20 > Also, since they clients wanting the video would be working directly = with me and I would probably invoice the client directly. > =20 > So then it's also a question for long-term, for what would be fair and = common for any addition future work from the same client. >=20 > =20 > I.e. I could not keep paying the company a finders-fee for ever for = all projects. > =20 > Keep in mind the company would not be involved in the production or do = any of the work, it would all be directly with me and the client. >=20 > =20 > What would you recommend? > =20 > I certainly need/want the work. > =20 > I could of course make sure the quote would be enough to afford paying = the company this % of the budget. > =20 > I would not be a consultant working for the company so it would be my = own production, where I can take full the credit for the work. >=20 > =20 > Thanks > =20 > Anders=20 --Apple-Mail=_4A324C83-8F0A-49A8-B185-0F551D0FE87F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Also, it depends on what kind of company it is.
If it's an advertising agency or similar (that's not pooling talent) I doubt that they're explicitly asking for a cut on the deal.
It might just be that it's a service to their clients to provide these skills and at the same not be bothered with the nitty gritty.

Have they asked for a percentage? 
If not, ask them how they usually handle these projects.


/ Tobias


On Feb 13, 2014, at 16:53 , Greg Balint <delrazoraelist@gmail.com> wrote:

I've done 10% in the past.. I've heard some people do 20%.  Definitely only a one time thing. Unless they bring another new client your way.

Really depends on the budget. If your client doesn't know the actual budget , then just figure what it was worth for you.  Say the project is $10,000. $1,000 - $1,500would be a nice kick back for them. $2,000 would feel like a considerable chunk of the pie. If the project was only like $1,000 then maybe $100.  But at that point It's kinda petty cash for a larger business. But it does show your gratitude.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
   

On Feb 13, 2014 7:23 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" <sundstedt@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,
 
I know this is not a question about AE, but as a freelancer I wanted to ask 
for advise on this. So don't feel you need to read or reply to this one.
 
I have been contacted by a company that would give my details directly to their clients that are interested in 

animated video, as they have clients asking for it and they don't create animated video themselves.
 
Now how much of my price/quote of a project would you say is fair to pay the company who helped me get this work?

 
It's not someone I have worked with before or a friend that I would expect to just give away work to me for free.
 
Let's say I would be willing to pay him a certain % of the price for getting me the work.

 
Also, since they clients wanting the video would be working directly with me and I would probably invoice the client directly.
 
So then it's also a question for long-term, for what would be fair and common for any addition future work from the same client.

 
I.e. I could not keep paying the company a finders-fee for ever for all projects.
 
Keep in mind the company would not be involved in the production or do any of the work, it would all be directly with me and the client.

 
What would you recommend?
 
I certainly need/want the work.
 
I could of course make sure the quote would be enough to afford paying the company this % of the budget.
 
I would not be a consultant working for the company so it would be my own production, where I can take full the credit for the work.

 
Thanks
 
Anders

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