Return-Path: Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.109.203] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5375896 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 01:15:06 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CAC2570004120 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mre001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mre001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.185.193]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 99C7038000084 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:19:51 -0500 (EST) References: To: AE-List@media-motion.tv Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[AE]_OT_=C2=96_Blu_Ra?= =?utf-8?Q?y_Rippers?= In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: simhoff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8D0F7319CB610CA_2268_2CF26_webmail-m203.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38380-STANDARD Received: from 74.71.222.34 by webmail-m203.sysops.aol.com (64.12.75.227) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:19:51 -0500 Message-Id: <8D0F7319CB3AF69-2268-B0C1@webmail-m203.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [74.71.222.34] Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:19:51 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1392337191; bh=G6Uvj5NxiaHezSv6X15QOga9SoaJL63f0DH26h7ZB4M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aX90TXFGlmNfMzaFkZQFftv6+te7oxLKWM8ZQsZfs6M4MM1X0ZEVH2uUWl6CVtcX8 bW9rKNQGOjCw7XUoR/+f95g+kNm3YT+d7gxziTBGP5n7ZIH5nXhB7l7+xSHARmkWk2 kH4zlqk50VC1HqpU1GrScvWWa4AvfhkGaHhIpkuM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b052fd61273273 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D0F7319CB610CA_2268_2CF26_webmail-m203.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Jonathan, I'm no expert but I have ripped Blu Rays on a Mac a few years ago. It wasn'= t that hard. I have an internal Pioneer Blu Ray recorder that I bought several years ago= from Other World Computing. It wasn't expensive. That drive sits in the ot= her drive bay in a Mac Pro. I know that there are also external drives and = probably lots of other options for Blu Ray drives. You need a program that will take the file on the Blu Ray disk and make it = into an MKV file. I used the software Make MKV, it's easy to find on the we= b but there are probably other programs that will also make an mkv file. Af= ter making the mkv file you have to import that into Handbrake or something= that can read an mkv file and export from there into a usable format. Anyrate it did work but I'm no expert. I use the drive for backing up data = usually. hope this helps, Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan To: After Effects Mail List Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 5:19 pm Subject: Re: [AE] OT =C2=96 Blu Ray Rippers Thanks, guys, for the replies. PC isn't an option, Teddy, and oddly enough, even the editor doesn't have a= ccess to any digital files. But if, as you say, ripping Blu Ray disks is such a pain, I can try my othe= r alternative: play the disks on a Playstation 3 >> HDMI into AJA I/O HD bo= x >> digitize to ProRes 422 in Final Cut Pro 7. Also a pain but maybe not = quite as painful. A bit above lowtech, Steve? Are most Blu Ray disks 1080 23.986 or 24? as far you guys know? The specs a= re from 24 up to 59.94. Thanks again. I appreciate the suggestions. Jonathan On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: low tech approach... just capture the shots off the discs via component or = HDMI. hopefully no copy protection to make your life more miserable. probab= ly a HDMI->SDI converter from china for under $50 that might also strip it = off if there is any. haven't tried that.. don't forget PS3 can play bluray.= players are down to around $100-150 now On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: This is a huge pain. Not as easy as it sounds. Honestly, would be easier if= you had access to a PC system as the tools are better, drives are faster a= nd process is more streamlined.=20 First, you could simply stream the movie through HDMI from a player to an H= DMI capture card, but I don't know what your options are there, hardware-wi= se. Probably expensive for good quality. You are looking at 30-50 GB per di= sc.=20 Second, you could buy a USB bluray drive that is mac compatible. Apple does= not make a blu ray drive and offers no software. Aurora makes player softw= are and a free ripper, but that produces a hard to handle or edit .bdmv fil= e. You are better off with www.makemkv.com/ which will create an mkv (matro= ska) video file of your bluray video. From there you would need to convert = it using VLC, handbrake or maybe ffmpeg for editing. That conversion is tri= cky itself, and time consuming.=20 Honestly it may be easier (and cheaper in terms of hours) to just keep purs= uing a digital master. He must know what house made his blurays or have a p= roducer make a call. Is it sold in a digital format online anywhere? an itu= nes .mp4 could be ideal. -TG JONATHAN PENZNER VIDEO EDITING =E2=80=A2 MOTION GRAPHICS =E2=80=A2 DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | sundancerealtime@me.com ----------MB_8D0F7319CB610CA_2268_2CF26_webmail-m203.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Hi Jonathan,

I'm no ex= pert but I have ripped Blu Rays on a Mac a few years ago. It wasn't that ha= rd.

I have an internal Pioneer Blu R= ay recorder that I bought several years ago from Other World Computing. It = wasn't expensive. That drive sits in the other drive bay in a Mac Pro. I kn= ow that there are also external drives and probably lots of other options f= or Blu Ray drives.

You need a program that will tak= e the file on the Blu Ray disk and make it into an MKV file. I used the sof= tware Make MKV, it's easy to find on the web but there are probably other p= rograms that will also make an mkv file. After making the mkv file you= have to import that into Handbrake or something that can read an mkv file = and export from there into a usable format.

Anyrate it did work but I'm no e= xpert. I use the drive for backing up data usually.

hope this helps,
Sandy


Thanks, guys, for the replies.

PC isn't an option, Teddy, and oddly enough, even the editor doesn't h= ave access to any digital files.

But if, as you say, ripping Blu Ray disks is such a pain, I can try my= other alternative: play the disks on a Playstation 3 >> HDMI into AJ= A I/O HD box >>  digitize to ProRes 422 in Final Cut Pro 7. Also= a pain but maybe not quite as painful. A bit above lowtech, Steve?<= /div>

Are most Blu Ray disks 1080 23.986 or 24? as far you guys know? The sp= ecs are from 24 up to 59.94.

Thanks again. I appreciate the suggestions.


Jonathan


On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Steve Oakley wrote:

low tech approach... just capture the shots off= the discs via component or HDMI. hopefully no copy protection to make your= life more miserable. probably a HDMI->SDI converter from china for unde= r $50 that might also strip it off if there is any. haven't tried that.. do= n't forget PS3 can play bluray. players are down to around $100-150 now



On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Teddy Gage wrote:

This is a huge pain. Not as easy as it sounds. Honestly, w= ould be easier if you had access to a PC system as the tools are better, dr= ives are faster and process is more streamlined. 

First, you could simply stream the movie through HDMI from a player to= an HDMI capture card, but I don't know what your options are there, hardwa= re-wise. Probably expensive for good quality. You are looking at 30-50 GB p= er disc. 

Second, you could buy a USB bluray drive that is mac compatible. Apple= does not make a blu ray drive and offers no software. Aurora makes player = software and a free ripper, but that produces a hard to handle or edit .bdm= v file. You are better off with www.makemkv.com/ which will create an mkv (matrosk= a) video file of your bluray video. From there you would need to convert it= using VLC, handbrake or maybe ffmpeg for editing. That conversion is trick= y itself, and time consuming. 

Honestly it may be easier (and cheaper in terms of hours) to just keep= pursuing a digital master. He must know what house made his blurays or hav= e a producer make a call. Is it sold in a digital format online anywhere? a= n itunes .mp4 could be ideal.
-TG




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