Return-Path: Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.161.0] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5381903 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:45:05 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.68] (99-152-153-100.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.153.100]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N1500EV3FV3BD70@nk11p00mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:45:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-02-17_02:2014-02-14,2014-02-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1401130000 definitions=main-1402170091 From: Jim Curtis Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3AD06166-CDD6-4DAF-93E6-80CB60CDCE78" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: [AE] firelight Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:45:02 -0600 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) --Apple-Mail=_3AD06166-CDD6-4DAF-93E6-80CB60CDCE78 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I'm getting OK results by wiggling a Light with a salmon color. POI: wiggle(20,30) Position: wiggle(10,100) Intensity: wiggle(10,10) Initial Value: 150% Comp is 23.976 fps. =20 But, it still looks a little too regular or cyclical. I think if I = added another wiggle to a wiggle, I might get something that looks more = random. Or, maybe wiggle the camera. Anyway=85 I think I'm onto something. Better ideas welcomed. On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = wrote: > Ahh, i see. I will poke around more. >=20 > Eric >=20 > On Feb 17, 2014 10:30 AM, "Jim Curtis" wrote: > Hi Eric, >=20 > I don't want to create fire, I want to create the look that fire has = on objects: the wiggly shadows and highlights. I'm guessing I could = wiggle the light position, point of interest and add in some fractal = noise or use real fire video and projection mapping. =20 >=20 > I was just hoping not to have to re-invent the wheel in case somebody = has already developed a working method that they'd share. >=20 > Thanks, > Jim >=20 >=20 > On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:02 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" = wrote: >=20 >> Hey Jim, >>=20 >> I've never seen a tutorial about fire making that is specific to = using an AE light but if you just mean, building a fire that reacts to = light, I've seen several. Here's one that uses particles. = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1z9ti_dGgQE >>=20 >> The guy in the video above also shows his fire in a separate link = (under more on youtube) or here: = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWV_j0RvnXfk&feature=3Dyoutu.be&t=3D24s >>=20 >> So, I guess practical fire isn't an option, such as some of the = Andrew Kramer stock fire stuff? I know there are a couple of them that = look just like a normal camp fire and are real of course. >>=20 >> Eric >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >> Does anybody know of a tutorial or technique I can use to make an Ae = light look like a campfire on layers that accept lights and shadows? >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >> The Night Visitor | VFX >> 443.206.1347 >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> =20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_3AD06166-CDD6-4DAF-93E6-80CB60CDCE78 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 I'm = getting OK results by wiggling a Light with a salmon = color.

POI: wiggle(20,30)
Position: wiggl= e(10,100)
Intensity: wiggle(10,10) Initial Value: = 150%

Comp is 23.976 fps. =  

But, it still looks a little too regular = or cyclical.  I think if I added another wiggle to a wiggle, I = might get something that looks more random.  Or, maybe wiggle the = camera.

Anyway=85 I think I'm onto something. =  Better ideas = welcomed.




=
On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

Ahh, i see.  I will poke around = more.

Eric

On Feb 17, 2014 10:30 AM, "Jim Curtis" <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,

I don't = want to create fire, I want to create the look that fire has on objects: = the wiggly shadows and highlights.  I'm guessing I could wiggle the = light position, point of interest and add in some fractal noise or use = real fire video and projection mapping.  

I was just hoping not to have to re-invent the wheel = in case somebody has already developed a working method that they'd = share.

Thanks,
Jim

=

On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:02 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <kirkproductions@gmail.com> = wrote:

Hey Jim,

I've never seen a tutorial about fire making = that is specific to using an AE light but if you just mean, building a = fire that reacts to light, I've seen several.  Here's one that uses = particles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1z9ti_dGgQE

The guy in the video above also shows his fire in a = separate link (under more on youtube) or here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWV_j0RvnXfk&feature= =3Dyoutu.be&t=3D24s

So, I guess practical fire isn't an option, such as = some of the Andrew Kramer stock fire stuff?  I know there are a = couple of them that look just like a normal camp fire and are real of = course.

Eric



On Mon, Feb 17, = 2014 at 9:51 AM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Does anybody know of a = tutorial or technique I can use to make an Ae light look like a campfire = on layers that accept lights and shadows?
+---End of message---+
To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv>



--
Eric D. Kirk | Kirk = Productions
Hidden in the Woods | = VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
 


= --Apple-Mail=_3AD06166-CDD6-4DAF-93E6-80CB60CDCE78--