Communigate Pro AE-List@media-motion.tv Message 52867

Thank you Teddy G, Adam M, Py F, Peter M, Tobias L, Greg B and Jim C.

There has not resulted in any work yet but all your advice will be highly useful if a further discussion about some type of referral fee or finders fee or similar happens.

Details about the communication prior to my AE list email (have not spoken to them since):

Nothing was specified with the company but the initial email was asking to see what re-selling options I would be open for (they have more and more clients asking for animated videos). Then after a chat it was mentioned that I would be working directly with the client i.e. they would not be a middle man doing the communication. I did mention that I would be open for some type of fee for them referring the work to me but no sum or percentage were discussed.

Thanks,

Anders

From: Teddy Gage

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:40 PM

To: After Effects Mail List

Subject: Re: [AE] Getting work through a company

Yes exactly, what Adam said. Unless there is a contractual obligation, such as working for a creative staffing agency, who charges the client say, $130 / hr for your work and pays you $70. But that is completely different. Is there some explicit arrangement where someone in the company is demanding X percentage from you for the referrals? It's a bit unclear from your original post. But I think that would be a bit unorthodox and not a little shady. If you did the work, on your machines, it's your money. They shouldn't demand a "finder's fee" from you, and even if it's their client, they don't have the facilities to provide what you can do. They don't own the client. The hope is, the client is happy with their recommendation and gives them more work in the future.

That being said, most folks I know love a nice bottle of bourbon or scotch. Just saying.

-TG

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:12 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> wrote:

...or send them a basket of food, or wine or something nice. Other than money. Just something that says you appreciate the referral and puts you in their good graces. Its the sentiment or gesture rather than whether they like food baskets or not. Especially if they are an bigger agency where a small monetary kickback will be less significant.

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On Feb 13, 2014, at 4:21 AM, Anders Sundstedt wrote:

Hi,

I know this is not a question about AE, but as a freelancer I wanted to ask
for advise on this. So don't feel you need to read or reply to this one.

I have been contacted by a company that would give my details directly to their clients that are interested in

animated video, as they have clients asking for it and they don't create animated video themselves.

Now how much of my price/quote of a project would you say is fair to pay the company who helped me get this work?

It's not someone I have worked with before or a friend that I would expect to just give away work to me for free.

Let's say I would be willing to pay him a certain % of the price for getting me the work.

Also, since they clients wanting the video would be working directly with me and I would probably invoice the client directly.

So then it's also a question for long-term, for what would be fair and common for any addition future work from the same client.

I.e. I could not keep paying the company a finders-fee for ever for all projects.

Keep in mind the company would not be involved in the production or do any of the work, it would all be directly with me and the client.

What would you recommend?

I certainly need/want the work.

I could of course make sure the quote would be enough to afford paying the company this % of the budget.

I would not be a consultant working for the company so it would be my own production, where I can take full the credit for the work.

Thanks

Anders

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