Return-Path: Received: from mail-yk0-f170.google.com ([209.85.160.170] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5383032 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:28:50 +0100 Received: by mail-yk0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 9so34209334ykp.1 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:28:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=F05gRqm6NGVZdtsEqVTePANSIzGLw2vCJkuxJ5h2rHc=; b=ee0yT1wTwWVOkbIvKsTpxQZcr9F8crX1x/MiYMJPGM4YXbVGob5AXip40ZoQgs8cQz dQoWP/6CMILEPJ3iiqt7g5FQyE3nQR4JzacDN+bRQUnut8601w2dTT2bWOa6MD9r3pH9 pN+KdvBHRoLJJYsTNscdzLDIgKQINPLOBhY82u/Jl12gTN5MgDNdlov08WE+EGl5LS7I wJuFPgb9gs0+/8L/IeZwuxR/xrTe7qUcbpAnstsEe9MM6MXETlwzWKcdQCAyqNNA/ICj G4iWxGGwfiPMtxIIPmFtQqyFcxkZtm8LRoFKeKRIeGkacTsNTTOSP95vQz3vrE9wbF8F s1Mw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.50.194 with SMTP id z42mr139342yhb.145.1392744518246; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.160.6 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:28:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:28:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] generate water in AE From: Teddy Gage To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1d96845e8de04f2b19a64 --001a11c1d96845e8de04f2b19a64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Realflow is amazing. However it costs close to $3,500 and takes hours to simulate on even the best hex core studio workstations. Its better on a render farm, but that doesnt even include meshing, texturing or rendering. May be overkill unless there is an unlimited budget... On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, Lou Wirth wrote: > I'll check it out. Thanks. Not familiar with it. > > Lou Wirth Productions > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 > Corte Madera, CA 94925 > www.louwirth.com > 415-924-9411p > > > > > > On Feb 18, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Chris Bobotis wrote: > > > RealFlow (or other offerings like it) would work better for this kind of > effect. > > > > Cheers, > > Chris > > Mettle.com > > Skype: Mettlecom > > > > > > On 2014-02-18, at 11:54 AM, Lou Wirth wrote: > > > >> I have Tsunami and it does generate great water. But I am loping to > generate a giant wave to engulf the earth and cover it with water. > >> > >> thanks > >> Lou > >> Lou Wirth Productions > >> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 > >> Corte Madera, CA 94925 > >> www.louwirth.com > >> 415-924-9411p > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 18, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Steve Oakley > wrote: > >> > >>> tsunami from digital anarchy, its now sold by red giant I think. makes > nice water, works with AE camera and lights. slow to render when you crank > up certain quality params but excellent results if you need actual waves / > surface. > >>> > >>> S > >>> > >>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Rich Young wrote: > >>> > >>>> Can't see what you want either, but perhaps upscaling footage of big > waves would work best. > >>>> > >>>> I should update the post... > >>>> > >>>> > http://aeportal.blogspot.com/2010/11/underwater-scene-in-after-effects.html > >>>> http://aeportal.blogspot.com/search/label/water > >>>> > >>>> Rich > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------------------------------------- > >>>> On Mon, 2/17/14, Chris Zwar wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [AE] generate water in AE > >>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" > >>>> Date: Monday, February 17, 2014, 4:11 PM > >>>> > >>>> Without seeing exactly what you're > >>>> doing you can always try precomping some fractal noise and > >>>> using CC Glass. Or use wave world and caustics. > >>>> Or a combination. > >>>> If you just need a top-down view for a texture then you > >>>> might get away with those techniques. If you need > >>>> interaction with the AE camera, or a different 3D camera > >>>> view, then a 3rd party plugin is your only real > >>>> option. You can try using form if you're a masochist > >>>> but it's difficult to get realistic water, if you need > >>>> realism. > >>>> Personally I really like playing around with wave work and > >>>> caustics, but it can be tricky to get the look just > >>>> right. You really need several layers of bump maps > >>>> working together. I've got a tutorial on using them > >>>> together to wave a flag, but if you replaced the flag > >>>> texture with a water texture you'd have something the start > >>>> with: > >>>> > >>>> > http://provideocoalition.com/czwar/video/waving-a-flag-in-after-effects > >>>> > >>>> -Chris > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Lou Wirth [mailto:loutv@mindspring.com] > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:45 AM > >>>> To: 'After Effects Mail List' > >>>> Subject: [AE] generate water in AE > >>>> > >>>> Hi > >>>> Is there a way to generate water in AE other than > >>>> Tsunami? I have it but oddly enough I can't seem to > >>>> generate a "Tsunami". -- _____________________________ VFX & Motion Graphic Artist teddygage dot com --001a11c1d96845e8de04f2b19a64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Realflow is amazing. However it costs close to $3,500 and takes hours to si= mulate=A0on even the best hex core=A0studio workstations. Its=A0better on a= render farm, but that=A0doesnt even include meshing, texturing or renderin= g. May be overkill unless there is an unlimited budget...

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:
I'll check it out. =A0Thanks. =A0Not familiar with it.

Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com<= br> 415-924-9411p





On Feb 18, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Chris Bobotis <chris@mettle.com> = wrote:

> RealFlow (or other offerings like it) would work better for this kind = of effect.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
> Mettle.com
> Skype: Mettlecom
>
>
> On 2014-02-18, at 11:54 AM, Lou Wirth wrote:
>
>> I have Tsunami and it does generate great water. =A0But I am lopin= g to generate a giant wave to engulf the earth and cover it with water.
>>
>> thanks
>> Lou
>> Lou Wirth Productions
>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>> www.louwirth= .com
>> 415-924-9411p
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali= .com> wrote:
>>
>>> tsunami from digital anarchy, its now sold by red giant I thin= k. makes nice water, works with AE camera and lights. slow to render when y= ou crank up certain quality params but excellent results if you need actual= waves / surface.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Rich Young <aefilter@yahoo= .com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can't see what you want either, but perhaps upscaling = footage of big waves would work best.
>>>>
>>>> I should update the post...
>>>>
>>>> http://aeportal.blogspot.co= m/2010/11/underwater-scene-in-after-effects.html
>>>> http://aeportal.blogspot.com/search/label/water
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> On Mon, 2/17/14, Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com= > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AE] generate water in AE
>>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@med= ia-motion.tv>
>>>> Date: Monday, February 17, 2014, 4:11 PM
>>>>
>>>> Without seeing exactly what you're
>>>> doing you can always try precomping some fractal noise and=
>>>> using CC Glass. =A0Or use wave world and caustics.
>>>> Or a combination.
>>>> If you just need a top-down view for a texture then you >>>> might get away with those techniques. =A0If you need
>>>> interaction with the AE camera, or a different 3D camera >>>> view, then a 3rd party plugin is your only real
>>>> option. =A0You can try using form if you're a masochis= t
>>>> but it's difficult to get realistic water, if you need=
>>>> realism.
>>>> Personally I really like playing around with wave work and=
>>>> caustics, but it can be tricky to get the look just
>>>> right. =A0You really need several layers of bump maps
>>>> working together. =A0I've got a tutorial on using them=
>>>> together to wave a flag, but if you replaced the flag
>>>> texture with a water texture you'd have something the = start
>>>> with:
>>>>
>>>> http://provideocoalition.com/cz= war/video/waving-a-flag-in-after-effects
>>>>
>>>> -Chris
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Lou Wirth [mailto:loutv@mindspring.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:45 AM
>>>> To: 'After Effects Mail List'
>>>> Subject: [AE] generate water in AE
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> Is there a way to generate water in AE other than
>>>> Tsunami? =A0I have it but oddly enough I can't seem to=
>>>> generate a "Tsunami".


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