Return-Path: Received: from mail-yk0-f172.google.com ([209.85.160.172] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5383084 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:00:57 +0100 Received: by mail-yk0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 200so34205061ykr.3 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=0wKYkPmnXxK2iyQ9NDgNFKPKVIT0et9Uy0XW/2gHMn4=; b=eBmITwR774oje7In4gNkKB6sO66eTVFSl4sOiUG/z2Ai2i3zU5ggfFzjlW9HdWeaNl U98lLVpI9+swj8u8vFF1jfpgrvcd6UIVsuMEdATnimGblU2pQKXWK3OcR9wV0yWmwzj/ Q1sTFLCAoc79n4fnXziV2xDHsW8HR3SWIdvwNvOcgquqoNVT3L5aukb9Dx4fQL9UFu1y ufaxowh92QiwR1ruQ4//Smiz5/WQFPjQOpqCmEQQKr8rZMxCqtXYV15KrvJU7BXAY/7t GUjVt80T8dG3hpZKons2DEZxzCz6n7S9L91qMuuieVH/a7fsph7Qf8hNRLlbmkpJT6nk t4IA== X-Received: by 10.236.203.81 with SMTP id e57mr25821325yho.93.1392746458485; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.170.160.6 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:00:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:00:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] generate water in AE To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160b43aeb961304f2b20deb --089e0160b43aeb961304f2b20deb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well, they do rent it on a weekly basis for $250. That should cover like two tutorials and a simulation, maybe... :D On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Lou Wirth wrote: > cheaper than RealFlow for sure. ;-) > > > Lou Wirth Productions > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 > Corte Madera, CA 94925 > www.louwirth.com > 415-924-9411p > > > > > > On Feb 18, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Steve Oakley wrote: > > ouch ! > > sounds like buying a globe, a bucket, a green screen, and a FS700 @ 240 > might be your quick fix ! > > S > > On Feb 18, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > > Realflow is amazing. However it costs close to $3,500 and takes hours to > simulate on even the best hex core studio workstations. Its better on a > render farm, but that doesnt even include meshing, texturing or rendering. > May be overkill unless there is an unlimited budget... > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, Lou Wirth wrote: > >> I'll check it out. Thanks. Not familiar with it. >> >> Lou Wirth Productions >> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 >> Corte Madera, CA 94925 >> www.louwirth.com >> 415-924-9411p >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Chris Bobotis wrote: >> >> > RealFlow (or other offerings like it) would work better for this kind >> of effect. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Chris >> > Mettle.com >> > Skype: Mettlecom >> > >> > >> > On 2014-02-18, at 11:54 AM, Lou Wirth wrote: >> > >> >> I have Tsunami and it does generate great water. But I am loping to >> generate a giant wave to engulf the earth and cover it with water. >> >> >> >> thanks >> >> Lou >> >> Lou Wirth Productions >> >> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 >> >> Corte Madera, CA 94925 >> >> www.louwirth.com >> >> 415-924-9411p >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Steve Oakley >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> tsunami from digital anarchy, its now sold by red giant I think. >> makes nice water, works with AE camera and lights. slow to render when you >> crank up certain quality params but excellent results if you need actual >> waves / surface. >> >>> >> >>> S >> >>> >> >>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Rich Young wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Can't see what you want either, but perhaps upscaling footage of big >> waves would work best. >> >>>> >> >>>> I should update the post... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://aeportal.blogspot.com/2010/11/underwater-scene-in-after-effects.html >> >>>> http://aeportal.blogspot.com/search/label/water >> >>>> >> >>>> Rich >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -------------------------------------------- >> >>>> On Mon, 2/17/14, Chris Zwar wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [AE] generate water in AE >> >>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" >> >>>> Date: Monday, February 17, 2014, 4:11 PM >> >>>> >> >>>> Without seeing exactly what you're >> >>>> doing you can always try precomping some fractal noise and >> >>>> using CC Glass. Or use wave world and caustics. >> >>>> Or a combination. >> >>>> If you just need a top-down view for a texture then you >> >>>> might get away with those techniques. If you need >> >>>> interaction with the AE camera, or a different 3D camera >> >>>> view, then a 3rd party plugin is your only real >> >>>> option. You can try using form if you're a masochist >> >>>> but it's difficult to get realistic water, if you need >> >>>> realism. >> >>>> Personally I really like playing around with wave work and >> >>>> caustics, but it can be tricky to get the look just >> >>>> right. You really need several layers of bump maps >> >>>> working together. I've got a tutorial on using them >> >>>> together to wave a flag, but if you replaced the flag >> >>>> texture with a water texture you'd have something the start >> >>>> with: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://provideocoalition.com/czwar/video/waving-a-flag-in-after-effects >> >>>> >> >>>> -Chris >> >>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>> From: Lou Wirth [mailto:loutv@mindspring.com] >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:45 AM >> >>>> To: 'After Effects Mail List' >> >>>> Subject: [AE] generate water in AE >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi >> >>>> Is there a way to generate water in AE other than >> >>>> Tsunami? I have it but oddly enough I can't seem to >> >>>> generate a "Tsunami". > > > > -- > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com > > > > -- _____________________________ VFX & Motion Graphic Artist teddygage dot com --089e0160b43aeb961304f2b20deb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
well, they do rent it on a weekly basis for $250. That sho= uld cover like two tutorials and a simulation, maybe...
:D
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On Tue, Feb 18= , 2014 at 12:54 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrot= e:
cheaper = than RealFlow for sure. ;-)


Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Co= rte Madera, CA 94925
415-924-9411p
=A0




On Feb 18, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Ste= ve Oakley <st= eveo@practicali.com> wrote:

ouch !

sounds like buying a globe, a bucket, a green scr= een, and a FS700 @ 240 might be your quick fix !

S=

On Feb 18, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com= > wrote:

Realflow is amazing. However it costs close t= o $3,500 and takes hours to simulate=A0on even the best hex core=A0studio w= orkstations. Its=A0better on a render farm, but that=A0doesnt even include = meshing, texturing or rendering. May be overkill unless there is an unlimit= ed budget...

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:
I'll check it out. =A0Thanks. =A0Not familiar with it.

Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com=
415-924-9411p





On Feb 18, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Chris Bobotis <chris@mettle.com> = wrote:

> RealFlow (or other offerings like it) would work better for this kind = of effect.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
> Mettle.com
> Skype: Mettlecom
>
>
> On 2014-02-18, at 11:54 AM, Lou Wirth wrote:
>
>> I have Tsunami and it does generate great water. =A0But I am lopin= g to generate a giant wave to engulf the earth and cover it with water.
>>
>> thanks
>> Lou
>> Lou Wirth Productions
>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>> www.louwirt= h.com
>> 415-924-9411p
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali= .com> wrote:
>>
>>> tsunami from digital anarchy, its now sold by red giant I thin= k. makes nice water, works with AE camera and lights. slow to render when y= ou crank up certain quality params but excellent results if you need actual= waves / surface.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Rich Young <aefilter@yahoo= .com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can't see what you want either, but perhaps upscaling = footage of big waves would work best.
>>>>
>>>> I should update the post...
>>>>
>>>> http://aeportal.blogspot.co= m/2010/11/underwater-scene-in-after-effects.html
>>>> http://aeportal.blogspot.com/search/label/water
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> On Mon, 2/17/14, Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com= > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AE] generate water in AE
>>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@med= ia-motion.tv>
>>>> Date: Monday, February 17, 2014, 4:11 PM
>>>>
>>>> Without seeing exactly what you're
>>>> doing you can always try precomping some fractal noise and=
>>>> using CC Glass. =A0Or use wave world and caustics.
>>>> Or a combination.
>>>> If you just need a top-down view for a texture then you >>>> might get away with those techniques. =A0If you need
>>>> interaction with the AE camera, or a different 3D camera >>>> view, then a 3rd party plugin is your only real
>>>> option. =A0You can try using form if you're a masochis= t
>>>> but it's difficult to get realistic water, if you need=
>>>> realism.
>>>> Personally I really like playing around with wave work and=
>>>> caustics, but it can be tricky to get the look just
>>>> right. =A0You really need several layers of bump maps
>>>> working together. =A0I've got a tutorial on using them=
>>>> together to wave a flag, but if you replaced the flag
>>>> texture with a water texture you'd have something the = start
>>>> with:
>>>>
>>>> http://provideocoalition.com/cz= war/video/waving-a-flag-in-after-effects
>>>>
>>>> -Chris
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Lou Wirth [mailto:loutv@mindspring.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:45 AM
>>>> To: 'After Effects Mail List'
>>>> Subject: [AE] generate water in AE
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> Is there a way to generate water in AE other than
>>>> Tsunami? =A0I have it but oddly enough I can't seem to=
>>>> generate a "Tsunami".


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