Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #52992
From: Jayse Hansen <mographer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AE] New 'Ender's Game' Motion Graphics Reel!
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:06:11 -0800
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Yeah Greg - I thought the same actually - after delivering 2k for so long (2012/Apes @4k for some shots) - 

But Tim is exactly right - Even Avengers (which was shown IMAX) - I delivered final comps at 1920x1080 - freaked me out as well as I'm super anal on pixel precision - but it looked perfect in IMAX. Everything I've been doing lately is all closer to 1080 or exactly 1080. 

Elements are typically in the 2k range, but since I design in Illustrator - I always retain the option of continuous rasterization. I'll use that for times when there's a gigantic screen and you're seeing just a corner of it - like a few scenes looking over James Franco's shoulder in Planet of the Apes - or the Mess Hall Scoreboard when you're focused on Ender. 

The final thing that helps is to remember when we comp we're going for that 'filmed in camera' look as opposed to a 'graphic' or 'video' tack sharp look - so, to the graphics, I'm always adding an initial fast blur (usually around .5), then motion blur, then Bokeh/DOF blur (frischluft!), then rgb separation or chromatic aberrations, a super subtle glow, and then film grain on top of it all to match the plate footage. The final look is as forgiving to scaling as film is and you can get away with a lot.

Hope that helps answer your question! 

// jayse




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Jayse Hansen
702-321-3449



On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Tim Sassoon <tsassoon@aol.com> wrote:
IMAX does a proprietary "DMR" up-rez from 2K digital intermediates that's really quite good.


Tim Sassoon
SFD
Venice, CA



On Feb 21, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Greg Balint <delrazoraelist@gmail.com> wrote:

Quick question, Jayse.

Those resolutions you mentioned seem really low to me. Am I just out of the loop? I mean 2048x880? I know they were elements used for composite, but some things were full screen at times in that movie. Seems a bit low. Like if this film were shown in IMAX things would have been quite blurry.

Maybe I'm just too inexperienced with film motion graphics to understand the workflow.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
  

Ha Coleran is the MAN! He's the one that got me into it - thanks to Angie Taylor who introduced us long ago! He's a wizard!

Yeah the machines used to really choke playing full-sized videos full screen, as you can imagine. Not as much of an issue now - I was just doing screens for onset playback on Mocking Jay, and we are using ProRes - a fave codec! 

Thanks for all the comments guys! Was a great team! :-D


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Jayse Hansen



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Richard Green <Rich@loopcorp.com> wrote:
Great work Jayse, and an excellent website too. Anyone interested in
this stuff, there's a really good 50min talk by Mark Coleran from 2010
on YouTube. At one point, he talks about using DeBabelizer to render
his stuff down to 256 colours and exporting to an ancient QT codec
called Graphix. So a lot of those live on-set screen animations he
used to produce were less than 1Mb in size!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4nLFjEu20

Cheers
Rich

www.loopcorp.com

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