Return-Path: Received: from mail-pa0-f49.google.com ([209.85.220.49] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5387626 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 23 Feb 2014 22:26:49 +0100 Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id hz1so5626252pad.8 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2014 13:27:00 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id; bh=GCLqzd/difbNjP7NQMtwLTzGHCkFt8Geg2WxkwQLW7E=; b=M1mmc7/zM/byy6okKe4NIerX4xwl32S3DLt9piTc+iypGkyPXPKnJHgQB5opmCaNlg dE8b18+IyDYxureOVhwEYYxNdi+lOw58XcF/p7j5CwNjuTvGVMASljJSmpFfbQEV/xwx KindWeKKCRVEKHBb3iNF4SGfVxOfKG6ChVNNAECXSwVPsTLygiT4TtNac/A6twZz/i3o AyFSuvKegtkC5SnT1v56SfrOhYVZh/UZSOj3AREZZdVGLKK513A4GVQ/nOXjyIIqs888 n9rklsMb0mFxFeENpHt4C0MHnW9V1GopdU9Cj7BrB6HCdwoTIQRCtTlSGGe7inaOub4s twCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmGNHKDwpgrtTqX/25QdZw1u2QSXrjaBPL3qMJaFwK8EFr78rKqzrE62QBIBU1FcLREhJII X-Received: by 10.66.175.4 with SMTP id bw4mr21137636pac.56.1393190819850; Sun, 23 Feb 2014 13:26:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from ?IPv6:2601:9:7bc0:18:4184:b2e5:3bb0:1f91? ([2601:9:7bc0:18:4184:b2e5:3bb0:1f91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id os1sm103521198pac.20.2014.02.23.13.26.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Feb 2014 13:26:58 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Spitler Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_90DAE739-4DA0-4AF9-B019-453C7765D4A3" Subject: Re: [AE] Building a palette of preset, position-agnostic object move transitions Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 13:26:56 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <62500663-A022-4C53-B15E-D8204477D8D8@bonfirelabs.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) --Apple-Mail=_90DAE739-4DA0-4AF9-B019-453C7765D4A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Can't you put each element in it's own precomp that would make it easy = to swap out and no need for all the NULLs Phil Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 Website | Facebook | LinkedIn On Feb 23, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Hello folks,=20 > So in this project I am building, my goal is to create a series of = object moves that can be simply added to a 2.5D element in the scene = that will bring an object (photo or video) from out of scene, slide into = view, maintain a slight movement, then zoom out of frame smoothly. I = would ideally build two or three of these "moves" and then be able to = drop them on objects at will for a simple transition as the camera gets = near.=20 >=20 > My current setup is to apply the move to a 3D null, tweak the = animation curves to a smooth ease, then parent the object to the null. = This way there are no position keyframes on the actual object, which is = my goal. This is largely because the whole layout may need to be changed = at a moment's notice. However there are a few drawbacks to this setup >=20 > - Each null needs to be cut and trimmed to target layer > - Every object (couple hundred) needs to have its own null, further = increasing a complicated project > - Every null needs to be moved in 3D space to accompany the parented = object so the relative movement remains correct. >=20 > What I need is something that tells each layer to have this preset = animation that won't matter where in 3D space it is, the transform will = occur relative to each layer's position. Can't wrap my head around the = expression required. Maybe I am overthinking it. One idea I had was to = use the overlooked "Transform" EFFECT, but does that effect still use = world space coordinates? or are the additional transforms all relative = to the layer they are applied on? >=20 > All ideas welcome, thanks. Hope that's all clear. This project went = from "oh just a simple slideshow with some photo and video" to "200 = layer 3D-staggered layout, heavy on the motion graphics". And insist on = giving me every asset as a 500MB 8500x4500 CMYK .tif. Sigh. First-world = problems. > -TG=20 >=20 > --=20 > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com --Apple-Mail=_90DAE739-4DA0-4AF9-B019-453C7765D4A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Can't = you put each element in it's own precomp that would make it easy to swap = out and no need for all the = NULLs

Phil

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On Feb 23, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Teddy Gage wrote:

Hello folks, 
    So in this project I am = building, my goal is to create a series of object moves that can be = simply added to a 2.5D element in the scene that will bring an object = (photo or video) from out of scene, slide into view, maintain a slight = movement, then zoom out of frame smoothly. I would ideally build two or = three of these "moves" and then be able to drop them on objects at will = for a simple transition as the camera gets near. 

    My current setup is to apply the move = to a 3D null, tweak the animation curves to a smooth ease, then parent = the object to the null. This way there are no position keyframes on the = actual object, which is my goal. This is largely because the whole = layout may need to be changed at a moment's notice. However there are a = few drawbacks to this setup

- Each null needs to be cut and trimmed to target = layer
- Every object (couple hundred) needs to have its own = null, further increasing a complicated project
- Every null = needs to be moved in 3D space to accompany the parented object so the = relative movement remains correct.

What I need is something that tells each layer to = have this preset animation that won't matter where in 3D space it is, = the transform will occur relative to each layer's position. Can't wrap = my head around the expression required. Maybe I am overthinking it. One = idea I had was to use the overlooked "Transform" EFFECT, but does that = effect still use world space coordinates? or are the additional = transforms all relative to the layer they are applied on?

All ideas welcome, thanks. Hope that's all clear. = This project went from "oh just a simple slideshow with some photo and = video" to "200 layer 3D-staggered layout, heavy on the motion graphics". = And insist on giving me every asset as a 500MB 8500x4500 CMYK .tif. = Sigh. First-world problems.
-TG 

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