Return-Path: Received: from eu1sys200aog124.obsmtp.com ([207.126.144.157] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 5389384 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 15:59:11 +0100 Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com ([74.125.82.43]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob124.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUwyvzj2ru6IRe4+j/UZxLS4ZtH+PWoIU@postini.com; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:59:27 UTC Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id k14so493114wgh.2 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 06:59:26 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=USULSlfkBCnFMyitfv9GGR7ThiHAjhDszSCcwObmzHE=; b=iYg6hlzBvJXZtNQcbis4lGNKCF8EA8jTbKNoiNNnazP8S62fzUk9ORthDJh++qjb5V 89mVy2wcA4RfaQGOkzO4zkxyU3IYGALMgsHg86KMPxKnejPeItJdaKGfZXy6QHph9Mj8 2QCGLpxAnrMP/RonuXPbN1zFms82tsGLEkunHJz3OqBgmc9B84bh2PL40MqRpX40p3q9 NBqJeskaPYSds3uosBi2kKMSxmkITqtHSKMkuEqKb1BYhuBl2kJnmlWzvBBHU/d2vUb+ wd464eTPiBV3oHHGD8i46Q6m2HJa11SKbcG0TR26BfWncZWoqtwyaa7AW/mvri57+Svq jmGg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlqCB3CebrBHwcGPt/s0JWY1VC4E6rOJlQvm7ydSDjbzaxXQTKPT6wKOk+b03f0SAeMk+yX4SqUUC1mehYD38WwLymCa05a+j8HAzsZh6B9/BYVfkmc/c0mrRk5UU8IBczVSYvWChXbLmaY7hwETIkcVnIu18/TQKbz2bD0zTSsTW+32tM= X-Received: by 10.194.60.37 with SMTP id e5mr24569982wjr.32.1393340366820; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 06:59:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.60.37 with SMTP id e5mr24569963wjr.32.1393340366616; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 06:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.21.10 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 06:59:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:59:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Motion tracking From: Ross Shain To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba979da9a8ea004f33c5500 --047d7ba979da9a8ea004f33c5500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As Chris mentions, drone footage can produce motion blur (or undesirable camera motion). First you will probably want to stabilize/smooth your footage. Most likely markers are not needed for aerial footage and most of the 3D trackers will be able to handle basic moves. Since this is your first 3D project, I would recommend relatively simple moves. You can run into issues with full 360 rotations, etc. Lastly, the 3D camera solver module found in mocha AE v3 & mocha Pro v3 was designed as an alternative to feature based 3D trackers and excels on out of focus or blurred footage. It does not "replace" Syntheyes or PFtrack for feature depth, but may be an easier to learn workflow for newer users. There is a 15 day trial to help you test it out and here are some tutorials: http://www.imagineersystems.com/videos?tagFilter=3D+Camera+Solve+Module&sortBy=Newest Best, Ross On 25 February 2014 09:38, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > My experience with the built in 3d tracker in AE has been very mixed. > > Using it on some hand held footage just to test it out it has worked ok > good. But each time i wanted to use it on real projects it has failed to > give me acceptable results, and have gone back to Syntheyes, that tracks > way faster and more accurate, and the camera generated is much closer to > the real camera move. > > So my advice would be to try the built in first, but do have a backup plan > to either purchase another 3dtracker (maybe the multi versatile Mocha Pro > with the camera tracker would be better than standard AE even?) and learn > the basics of that or hire a guy/girl with access to one to do the track > for you. > > Robert > > Helle people, > > I will start a exciting motion tracking assignment in a week. > > The footage will be shot by a Drone. We will film a large open field where > there eventually be 3D buildings. > > So some motion tracking and some 3D work. > > Would the 3D camera tracker inside of AE be sufficient or should I try an > other one? > > And do I need tracker markers on the field? > > I am new at this and every tip is very welcome. > > Cheers, > Anthony > > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > -- Ross Shain Chief Marketing Officer Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual effects tools. www.imagineersystems.com Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com Find us online: Facebook | Twitter| YouTube | Vimeo --047d7ba979da9a8ea004f33c5500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As Chris mentions, drone footage can produce motion blur (= or undesirable camera motion). First you will probably want to stabilize/sm= ooth your footage.=A0
Most likely markers are not needed for aerial foo= tage and most of the 3D trackers will be able to handle basic moves.=A0

Since this is your first 3D project, I would recommend = relatively simple moves. You can run into issues with full 360 rotations, e= tc.=A0

Lastly, the 3D camera solver module found i= n mocha AE v3 & mocha Pro v3 was designed as an alternative to feature = based 3D trackers and excels on out of focus or blurred footage. It does no= t "replace" Syntheyes or PFtrack for feature depth, but may be an= easier to learn workflow for newer users.=A0

There is a 15 day trial to help you test it out and her= e are some tutorials: http://www.imagineersy= stems.com/videos?tagFilter=3D3D+Camera+Solve+Module&sortBy=3DNewest=

Best,
Ross


On 25 February 2014 09:38, Robert Kj= ettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk> wrote:

My experienc= e with the built in 3d tracker in AE has been very mixed.=A0

Using it on some hand held footage just to test it out it ha= s worked ok good. But each time i wanted to use it on real projects it has = failed to give me acceptable results, and have gone back to Syntheyes, that= tracks way faster and more accurate, and the camera generated is much clos= er to the real camera move.

So my advice would be to try the built in first, but do have= a backup plan to either purchase another 3dtracker (maybe the multi versat= ile Mocha Pro with the camera tracker would be better than standard AE even= ?) and learn the basics of that or hire a guy/girl with access to one to do= the track for you.

Robert

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Chief Marketing Officer
Imagineer Sy= stems - developers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tools= .

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Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fa= x: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com

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