Return-Path: Received: from eatspam.slcc.edu ([144.35.15.69] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5389496 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:48:09 +0100 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1393346902-0437c634f33b2230001-edO5QZ Received: from vCAS4.slcc.int (vcas4.slcc.int [10.1.11.55]) by eatspam.slcc.edu with ESMTP id U4uONwm180vlzdFZ for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:48:23 -0700 (MST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: John.Morgan@slcc.edu Received: from EXCH10A.SLCC.int ([169.254.1.39]) by vCAS4.slcc.int ([10.1.11.55]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:48:23 -0700 From: John Morgan To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] Motion tracking Thread-Topic: [AE] Motion tracking X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: [AE] Motion tracking Thread-Index: AQHPMjosTH0GYEjickiw5KzKkt+GYZrGLUAw Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:48:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.1.11.3] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D4D26B3CC3D8E846A571E8B8463E11DA16153AA8EXCH10Aslccint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: vcas4.slcc.int[10.1.11.55] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1393346902 X-Barracuda-URL: http://eatspam.slcc.edu:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at slcc.edu X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.145500 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message --_000_D4D26B3CC3D8E846A571E8B8463E11DA16153AA8EXCH10Aslccint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3aNsji0wHPE&feature=3Dyoutu.be Stabilized by onboard Zenmuse gimbal and default Warp Stabilizer settings. = Shot on cloudy day...was just a test shot. Exported a low quality. My firs= t with the new gimbal. Seem good enough for tracking? GoPro Hero 3+. John From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Ross Shain Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:59 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Motion tracking As Chris mentions, drone footage can produce motion blur (or undesirable ca= mera motion). First you will probably want to stabilize/smooth your footage. Most likely markers are not needed for aerial footage and most of the 3D tr= ackers will be able to handle basic moves. Since this is your first 3D project, I would recommend relatively simple mo= ves. You can run into issues with full 360 rotations, etc. Lastly, the 3D camera solver module found in mocha AE v3 & mocha Pro v3 was= designed as an alternative to feature based 3D trackers and excels on out = of focus or blurred footage. It does not "replace" Syntheyes or PFtrack for= feature depth, but may be an easier to learn workflow for newer users. There is a 15 day trial to help you test it out and here are some tutorials= : http://www.imagineersystems.com/videos?tagFilter=3D3D+Camera+Solve+Module= &sortBy=3DNewest Best, Ross On 25 February 2014 09:38, Robert Kjettrup > wrote: My experience with the built in 3d tracker in AE has been very mixed. Using it on some hand held footage just to test it out it has worked ok goo= d. But each time i wanted to use it on real projects it has failed to give = me acceptable results, and have gone back to Syntheyes, that tracks way fas= ter and more accurate, and the camera generated is much closer to the real = camera move. So my advice would be to try the built in first, but do have a backup plan = to either purchase another 3dtracker (maybe the multi versatile Mocha Pro w= ith the camera tracker would be better than standard AE even?) and learn th= e basics of that or hire a guy/girl with access to one to do the track for = you. Robert Helle people, I will start a exciting motion tracking assignment in a week. The footage will be shot by a Drone. We will film a large open field where there eventually be 3D buildings. So some motion tracking and some 3D work. Would the 3D camera tracker inside of AE be sufficient or should I try an o= ther one? And do I need tracker markers on the field? I am new at this and every tip is very welcome. 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Stabilized by onboard Zen= muse gimbal and default Warp Stabilizer settings.  Shot on cloudy day&= #8230;was just a test shot. Exported a low quality. My first with the new gimbal.   Seem good enough for tracking? GoPro Hero 3+.<= o:p>

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From: After = Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Ross Shain
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:59 AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Motion tracking

 

As Chris mentions, drone footage can produce motion = blur (or undesirable camera motion). First you will probably want to stabil= ize/smooth your footage. 

Most likely markers are not needed for aerial footag= e and most of the 3D trackers will be able to handle basic moves. 

 

Since this is your first 3D project, I would recomme= nd relatively simple moves. You can run into issues with full 360 rotations= , etc. 

 

Lastly, the 3D camera solver module found in mocha A= E v3 & mocha Pro v3 was designed as an alternative to feature based 3D = trackers and excels on out of focus or blurred footage. It does not "r= eplace" Syntheyes or PFtrack for feature depth, but may be an easier to learn workflow for newer users. 

 

There is a 15 day trial to help you test it out and = here are some tutorials: http://www.imagineersystems.com/videos?tagFilter=3D3D+Camera+Solve&= #43;Module&sortBy=3DNewest

 

Best,

Ross

 

On 25 February 2014 09:38, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk= > wrote:

My experience with the built in 3d tracker in AE has been very mixed.&nb= sp;

Using it on some hand held footage just to test it out it has worked ok = good. But each time i wanted to use it on real projects it has failed to gi= ve me acceptable results, and have gone back to Syntheyes, that tracks way = faster and more accurate, and the camera generated is much closer to the real camera move.

So my advice would be to try the built in first, but do have a backup pl= an to either purchase another 3dtracker (maybe the multi versatile Mocha Pr= o with the camera tracker would be better than standard AE even?) and learn= the basics of that or hire a guy/girl with access to one to do the track for you.

Robert=

Helle people,

I will start a exciting motion tracking assignment in a week.

The footage will be shot by a Drone. We will film a large open field where<= br> there eventually be 3D buildings.

So some motion tracking and some 3D work.

Would the 3D camera tracker inside of AE be sufficient or should I try an o= ther one?

And do I need tracker markers on the field?

I am new at this and every tip is very welcome.

Cheers,
Anthony




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