Return-Path: Received: from eatspam.slcc.edu ([144.35.15.69] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5390370 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:39:38 +0100 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1393425594-043a544cae3bdf60001-edO5QZ Received: from vCAS4.slcc.int (vcas4.slcc.int [10.1.11.55]) by eatspam.slcc.edu with ESMTP id hWz6R4Ib2qFOevZr for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:39:54 -0700 (MST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: John.Morgan@slcc.edu Received: from EXCH10A.SLCC.int ([169.254.1.39]) by vCAS4.slcc.int ([10.1.11.55]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:39:54 -0700 From: John Morgan To: "AE-List@media-motion.tv" Subject: RE: [AE] Motion tracking Thread-Topic: [AE] Motion tracking X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: [AE] Motion tracking Thread-Index: AQHPMvOoTH0GYEjickiw5KzKkt+GYZrHkSSwgAAJJiA= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:39:53 +0000 Message-ID: References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.1.11.3] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D4D26B3CC3D8E846A571E8B8463E11DA16155398EXCH10Aslccint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: vcas4.slcc.int[10.1.11.55] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1393425594 X-Barracuda-URL: http://eatspam.slcc.edu:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at slcc.edu X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1, HTML_MESSAGE X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.145532 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.00 ADVANCE_FEE_1 Appears to be advance fee fraud (Nigerian 419) --_000_D4D26B3CC3D8E846A571E8B8463E11DA16155398EXCH10Aslccint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric, 7 months ago I got that same Phantom package from B&H. You'll love the GPS = mode of flying. An R/C hobbyist in my private life, I've flown mostly aircr= aft (sailplanes and electrics). As you'll find from flying helicopters/quad= copter in simulators like RealFlight, they are a handful!! Orientation is c= ritical and getting mixed up on the controls will put you on the ground in = pieces super fast. GPS mode adds a LOT of stability to your flying and mak= es it so you can't get disoriented and slip the Phantom into the ground. Ho= me Lock/Course Lock modes offer their advantages too. OK, now for the disappointing stuff. You will not be happy with your videos= (except in absolutely calm air flying) if you attach the GoPro directly to= the Phantom. Every little course correction/attitude adjustment shows up i= n your footage. The "jello" that everyone talks about can be compensated fo= r by shooting at 60fps rather than 24fps. It has a lot to do with automatic= shutter speed in certain brightness levels in your shot. That said, I did = get some good shots doing vertical lift-offs (resembling a camera boom lift= .) I highly recommend having the Zenmuse H3-2D gimbal package added to your Qu= adcopter!! The stability is a quantum leap better! I live in the Salt Lake = City area and am lucky to have a vendor, TV Specialists, who has tooled up = and gotten in to selling/supporting aerial videography. I bought the origi= nal Phantom package (plus and extra battery and prop guards) from B&H for $= 572, then just recently had TV Specialist retrofit my Phantom to add the Ze= nmuse gimbal package with FPV. They have a solution that only cost me (my e= mployer) just under $1300 for gimbal, taking the quad apart to add the addi= tional circuit boards needed to run the gimbal, RC Logger FPV components (5= .8GHZ video transmitter, receiver and monitor). The also add a rear slider = switch that allows you to tilt the camera from pointing straight down, to l= evel (90=B0 movement.) So I'm telling you, you can upgrade to Zenmuse gimba= l and FPV for $1300 or less! Right now, with DJI Phantom, GoPRo Hero 3+ (yo= u need the Hero 3+ because the port that powers the removable viewfinder pl= ugs into the gimbal and powers your FPV components), Zenmuse h3-2d gimbal a= nd labor to install it, I'm into my quad only $2300! That's a pretty cheap = flying video camera! Well, obviously your footage is only as good as GoPro = can provide, but it's a bunch of more money to move up to the next level o= f octocopter and DSLR cameras.....like $8000 and up. The Zenmuse gimbal package include rubber mounts for the gimbal base. Balan= cing the props or changing to carbon fiber props is just not necessary. One last caveat: the Zenmuse gimbal corrects for pitch and roll (hence the= "2D"), but not for yaw. You still have to fly the craft very carefully to = compensate for yaw (left/right) movements. There is a new Phantom 2 that's hitting the markets now. Supposedly it's al= l prewired for Zenmuse gimbal. TV Specialists have not tested it yet. Seems= there's a few challenges with it. My vendor felt that retrofitting the ori= ginal Phantom is still the better way to go rather than getting the DJI Pha= ntom 2. Hope this offers you some encouragement as you get into aerial videography.= Happy to answer any other questions, or connect you to my local vendor. Th= ere's probably other vendors popping up all over the place that can do the = same.....but maybe not for the same price. Send me your private email and I= 'll embed a pic of my system with Zenmuse onboard. http://www.tvspecialists.com/ Dan Austin (dana@tvspec.com) John From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Mr. Eric D. Kirk Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:07 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Motion tracking Anthony, A pleasure. Also, since I'm also in the market for a drone, this one seems= a bit better than the Parrot one in the links from yesterday. I also noti= ced there are techniques for balancing the propellers that may actually eli= minate wobble atogether. Check out this drone below. I think I am getting this one. There are a cou= ple levels even higher (like $1100+). http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F9Q76WA?psc=3D1 And then for balancing - if you need to go that far, there is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOXuNnYQO2s4 Eric This message, and any attachments, is intended only for the use of the addr= essee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential or ot= herwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this= e-mail is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any una= uthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message = is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please no= tify the sender by return e-mail and delete this e-mail and any attachments= from your system.= --_000_D4D26B3CC3D8E846A571E8B8463E11DA16155398EXCH10Aslccint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Eric,

7 months ago I got that s= ame Phantom package from B&H. You’ll love the GPS mode of flying.= An R/C hobbyist in my private life, I’ve flown mostly aircraft (sail= planes and electrics). As you’ll find from flying helicopters/quadcopter in= simulators like RealFlight, they are a handful!! Orientation is critical a= nd getting mixed up on the controls will put you on the ground in pieces su= per fast.  GPS mode adds a LOT of stability to your flying and makes it so you can’t get disoriented and slip th= e Phantom into the ground. Home Lock/Course Lock modes offer their advantag= es too.

 <= /p>

OK, now for the disappoin= ting stuff. You will not be happy with your videos (except in absolutely ca= lm air flying) if you attach the GoPro directly to the Phantom. Every little course correction/attitude adjustment shows up in your footag= e. The “jello” that everyone talks about can be compensated for= by shooting at 60fps rather than 24fps. It has a lot to do with automatic = shutter speed in certain brightness levels in your shot. That said, I did get some good shots doing vertical lift-offs (= resembling a camera boom lift.)

 <= /p>

I highly recommend having= the Zenmuse H3-2D gimbal package added to your Quadcopter!! The stability = is a quantum leap better! I live in the Salt Lake City area and am lucky to have a vendor, TV Specialists, who has tooled up and gotte= n in to selling/supporting aerial videography.  I bought the original = Phantom package (plus and extra battery and prop guards) from B&H for $= 572, then just recently had TV Specialist retrofit my Phantom to add the Zenmuse gimbal package with FPV. They have = a solution that only cost me (my employer) just under $1300 for gimbal, tak= ing the quad apart to add the additional circuit boards needed to run the g= imbal, RC Logger FPV components (5.8GHZ video transmitter, receiver and monitor). The also add a rear slid= er switch that allows you to tilt the camera from pointing straight down, t= o level (90=B0 movement.) So I’m telling you, you can upgrade to Zenm= use gimbal and FPV for $1300 or less! Right now, with DJI Phantom, GoPRo Hero 3+ (you need the Hero 3+ because= the port that powers the removable viewfinder plugs into the gimbal and po= wers your FPV components), Zenmuse h3-2d gimbal and labor to install it, I&= #8217;m into my quad only $2300! That’s a pretty cheap flying video camera! Well, obviously your footage is only as good as= GoPro can provide, but it’s a bunch of more money to move up to = ; the next level of octocopter and DSLR cameras…..like $8000 and up.<= o:p>

 <= /p>

The Zenmuse gimbal packag= e include rubber mounts for the gimbal base. Balancing the props or changin= g to carbon fiber props is just not necessary.

 <= /p>

One last caveat:  th= e Zenmuse gimbal corrects for pitch and roll (hence the “2D”), = but not for yaw. You still have to fly the craft very carefully to compensa= te for yaw (left/right) movements.

 <= /p>

There is a new Phantom 2 = that’s hitting the markets now. Supposedly it’s all prewired fo= r Zenmuse gimbal. TV Specialists have not tested it yet. Seems there’s a few challenges with it. My vendor felt that retrofitting the original Ph= antom is still the better way to go rather than getting the DJI Phantom 2.<= o:p>

 <= /p>

Hope this offers you some= encouragement as you get into aerial videography. Happy to answer any othe= r questions, or connect you to my local vendor. There’s probably other vendors popping up all over the place that can do the same&= #8230;..but maybe not for the same price. Send me your private email a= nd I’ll embed a pic of my system with Zenmuse onboard.

 <= /p>

http://www.tvspecialists.com/

Dan Austin (dana@tvspec.c= om)

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John

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From: After = Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-Lis= t@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Mr. Eric D. Kirk
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:07 AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Motion tracking

 

Anthony,

 

A pleasure.  Also, since I'm also in the market= for a drone, this one seems a bit better than the Parrot one in the links = from yesterday.  I also noticed there are techniques for balancing the= propellers that may actually eliminate wobble atogether. 

 

Check out this drone below.  I think I am getti= ng this one. There are a couple levels even higher (like $1100+).<= o:p>

http://www.= amazon.com/dp/B00F9Q76WA?psc=3D1

And then for balancing -= if you need to go that far, there is this:

 

 

Eric

 

 


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