Return-Path: Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5390819 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 00:58:28 +0100 Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id a1so2250072wgh.15 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:58:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HJT0SLrqh9h0VzyXlSfAy1x6eYBxcLFEmNJxqCOAHW4=; b=jE+7Nl20BlCW/rzioWu8/zuQzvzOwk7TjaKI0V5+doNJW6cwPSmgdyVMG7wC7Crsej kcjM63KN4B91gyLWkACjUF+smfinrPp8i2+Zom+YcmE0G3bNOQgdDwccylxq+3T8PWLm OjrGuZ6qZJ6vYqxvdbjSMlqIeDNz4LnS/ALTGdGmO8NhLYhpwtAQIPMwB4eM5jc/lfzK 9MY8Z/tfISYhfWhohu4IGLIlJAd7pM7X3dqA+dM+6YZcxg0FsSOc8zJ0pGnQUV8vkjkr GTxHsIHaooZWZv9XUTdvlkxVcxAgkaq13ghddz5LYouDvAmlFgOUfljHXvMnWlnkhH3y 2JPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.13.17 with SMTP id eu17mr4884978wjd.24.1393459125036; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.223.17 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:58:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 01:58:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Motion tracking [Drones] From: Roei Tzoref To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd91a7a282d4404f357fc08 --047d7bd91a7a282d4404f357fc08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi guys I am not sure if that's what you meant John, but when you said "turn frame blending and to best quality" it seems you're referring to the layer switch and not the frame blending mode in the plugin= . turning on frame blending switch for the layer *and* using time warp effect will actually duplicate the frame blending which can cause unwanted/unnecessary results. there is a built in frame blending option in the plugin itself (not the layer switch). my apologies if I misunderstood your advice. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:12 PM, John Morgan wrote: > Use Timewarp with ease in/out used for speed keyframes. After all the > speed keying is done, turn motion blurring on, manual settings, 180=B0 > shutter, shutter samples at 32. > > Then turn frame blending on to best quality and voila! Smooth motion at > any speed. > > > > John > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *On > Behalf Of *Mr. Eric D. Kirk > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:08 AM > > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] Motion tracking [Drones] > > > > Well, despite the route, turned out pretty darn good. I love the initial > shot as it slows down over the building. Which brings to my attention, I > don't think I've ever used timewarp. > > > > How is timewarp used and how is it different than time remapping or > slowing down using other methods? > > > > Thanks, > Eric > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:00 AM, John Morgan > wrote: > > You could say I stress-tested the footage. J It was originally 1080 > 60fps from the GoPro. I warp stabilized it in a 1080 60fps Pr timeline th= en > exported it as 720p 23.97. Then took that exported clip into Ae for the > Timewarp....forgetting that I'd made the clip 23.97, I rendered out of Ae= as > 29.97. Then took it back to Pr for the final edit and exported as 720p > 23.97. Not exactly the cleanest route! But the footage held up. Exported > timewarped piece from Ae with Frame Blend highest quality switched on. Wa= s > only planning to show it to co-workers who consider the drone "John's toy > thingy," but then this discussion came up so decided to share it on YouTu= be. > > > > John > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *On > Behalf Of *Mr. Eric D. Kirk > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:47 AM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] Motion tracking [Drones] > > > > That's pretty awesome looking footage. > > > > So the time warp was done on 60FPS footage? > > > > Eric > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:56 AM, John Morgan wrote= : > > http://youtu.be/lgfSvJ-vQPs > > > > Short compilation of drone shots. Note a bit of yawing problem in the > second two scenes. I inadvertantly had the transmitter switched to Course > Lock. Seemed to be fighting me. Or, it was the little bit of wind. Not su= re > yet. First shot flying over the Lifetime Activities Center did not have t= he > yawing. All shots color and sharpness corrected and default Warp Stablize= d > in Pr. First scene flying over the LAC has Timewarp speed changes in Ae. > > > > John > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *On > Behalf Of *John Morgan > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:40 AM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] Motion tracking > > > > Eric, > > 7 months ago I got that same Phantom package from B&H. You'll love the GP= S > mode of flying. An R/C hobbyist in my private life, I've flown mostly > aircraft (sailplanes and electrics). As you'll find from flying > helicopters/quadcopter in simulators like RealFlight, they are a handful!= ! > Orientation is critical and getting mixed up on the controls will put you > on the ground in pieces super fast. GPS mode adds a LOT of stability to > your flying and makes it so you can't get disoriented and slip the Phanto= m > into the ground. 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hi guys 

I am not sure if that'= s what you meant John,
but when you said "turn frame blendin= g and to best quality" it seems you're referring to the layer swit= ch and not the frame blending mode in the plugin.

turning on frame blending switch for the layer and&nbs= p;using time warp effect will actually duplicate the frame blending which c= an cause unwanted/unnecessary results.
there is a built in frame = blending option in the plugin itself (not the layer switch).

my apologies if I misunderstood your advice.


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:12 PM, John Morgan <= John.Morgan@slcc.edu> wrote:

Use Timewarp with ease in= /out used for speed keyframes. After all the speed keying is done, turn mot= ion blurring on, manual settings, 180=B0 shutter, shutter samples at 32.

Then turn frame blending = on to best quality and voila! Smooth motion at any speed.

 

John=

 

From: After = Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Mr. Eric D. Kirk
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:08 AM


To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Motion tracking [Drones]
=

 

Well, despite the route, turned out pretty darn good= .  I love the initial shot as it slows down over the building.  W= hich brings to my attention, I don't think I've ever used timewarp.=  

 

How is timewarp used and how is it different than ti= me remapping or slowing down using other methods? 

 

Thanks,
Eric

 

 

 <= /p>

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:00 AM, John Morgan <John.Morgan@slcc.ed= u> wrote:

You could say I stress-te= sted the footage. J It was originally 1080 60fps from the = GoPro. I warp stabilized it in a 1080 60fps Pr timeline then exported it as 720p 23.97. Then took that exported clip into Ae for t= he Timewarp….forgetting that I’d made the clip 23.97, I render= ed out of Ae as 29.97. Then took it back to Pr for the final edit and expor= ted as 720p 23.97.  Not exactly the cleanest route! But the footage held up. Exported timewarped piece from Ae with Fra= me Blend highest quality switched on. Was only planning to show it to co-wo= rkers who consider the drone “John’s toy thingy,” but the= n this discussion came up so decided to share it on YouTube.

 

John=

 

From: After = Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Mr. Eric D. Kirk
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:47 AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Motion tracking [Drones]

 

That's pretty awesome looking footage.=

 

So the time warp was done on 60FPS footage?

 

Eric

 <= /p>

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:56 AM, John Morgan <John.Morgan@slcc.edu= > wrote:

http://youtu.be/lgfSvJ-vQPs

 =

Short compila= tion of drone shots. Note a bit of yawing problem in the second two scenes. I inadvertantly had the transmitter switched to Course Lock. Seemed to be = fighting me. Or, it was the little bit of wind. Not sure yet. First shot fl= ying over the Lifetime Activities Center did not have the yawing. All shots= color and sharpness corrected and default Warp Stablized in Pr.  First scene flying over the LAC has Ti= mewarp speed changes in Ae.

 =

John

 

From: After = Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of John Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:40 AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Motion tracking

 

Eric,

7 months ago I got that s= ame Phantom package from B&H. You’ll love the GPS mode of flying.= An R/C hobbyist in my private life, I’ve flown mostly aircraft (sailplanes = and electrics). As you’ll find from flying helicopters/quadcopter in = simulators like RealFlight, they are a handful!! Orientation is critical an= d getting mixed up on the controls will put you on the ground in pieces super fast.  GPS mode adds a LOT of stabi= lity to your flying and makes it so you can’t get disoriented and sli= p the Phantom into the ground. Home Lock/Course Lock modes offer their adva= ntages too.

 

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