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(torno@sydefxink.com@108.184.252.87) by 0 with ESMTPA; 1 Mar 2014 04:10:55 -0000 From: David Torno Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-31594596-44C4-43DD-8A46-D5771807BEB5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [AE] CC license question Message-Id: <1F2458A3-BFB0-45F5-9AE0-9A215544411B@sydefxink.com> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 20:10:53 -0800 References: In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) --Apple-Mail-31594596-44C4-43DD-8A46-D5771807BEB5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ya, the site explanation was confusing to me and I thought I was misreading w= hen I saw a higher monthly cost point for the team license versus just getti= ng multiple individual licenses. If the team setup requires user accounts pe= r machine, I might as well just get six individuals and when we have less fr= eelancers just cancel the subscriptions for the machines not being used. If w= e bloat again for a project, just start paying the monthly again for those m= achines. Not only save the difference in monthly cost, but also no need to c= onstantly change user accounts per freelancer as they would basically be acc= ounts based on machine. =46rom a financial standpoint Team makes no sense. I= t still seems like the same work is being done as would be for an individual= setup, so no sell for me honestly. Maybe that platform works for a large sc= ale company (30+ staff) or something, but I feel that would be worse somehow= . We go from the core three users to a bloat of twelve maybe and not all are= tasked with AE work so I think I may have my answer. Thanks for the feedbac= k all. And Todd I'm sure you'll pass along the thoughts shared here to those= that need to know. Maybe a better explanation from Adobe could clear things= up if I'm missing something too. David Torno Technical Director http://www.ghosttownmedia.com O: 213.739.2290 C: 818.391.6060 -------------------- http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field > On Feb 28, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >=20 > The teams implementation is pretty ass backward. Having to create emails f= or eaxh account doesn't give teams the benefits it should have, especially s= ince it costs more. Genius plan >=20 > People need to keep letting adobe know that teams implementation still nee= ds tweaking=20 >=20 >> On Feb 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, David Torno wrote: >>=20 >> Good to know. That's what my concern was. It's basically a user account t= ied to each seat then? Not just a simple authorization to run AE on six plus= machines using just the one login. We have the freelancer rotation aspect h= ere as well. >>=20 >> David Torno >> Technical Director >> http://www.ghosttownmedia.com >> O: 213.739.2290 >> C: 818.391.6060 >> -------------------- >> http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com >>=20 >> "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" >> -Charles Field >>=20 >>> On Feb 28, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Allen Ellis wrote: >>>=20 >>> I was in the exact same situation an felt frustrated by the increased co= st. Seemed to me that buying in bulk should cost less, not more! >>>=20 >>> To us the real advantage of teams is the centralized billing. Though you= can't really add/subtract seats quickly, if you add a seat you need to pay f= or the rest of the year for that seat or pay a pro rated penalty. >>>=20 >>> Even in teams you have to create individual email accounts for each seat= which was also bizarre since we have multiple freelancers rotating thru wor= kstations as needed. >>>=20 >>> In the end we connected with a local adobe reseller who was able to get u= s on board a 40% discount adobe was offering on teams, which was great. Then= we setup an email alias for each account that forwards to me: cc1@, cc2@, c= c3@, etc. We share a Google spreadsheet tracking which seats are activated o= n which workstation. >>>=20 >>>> On Feb 28, 2014 6:05 PM, "David Torno" wrote: >>>> So I am finally getting my voice heard and the CC conversation is on th= e table. Confusion is arising with the plan explanations on the Adobe site. W= hat's the advantage of team? It looks as if it's ten dollars cheaper to go w= ith multiple individual plans versus team at $30. Am I missing something? Or= is it due to the extra storage and cloud frills offered in team. Which are n= ot needed for us. We just want the software. :) >>>>=20 >>>> David Torno >>>> Technical Director >>>> http://www.ghosttownmedia.com >>>> O: 213.739.2290 >>>> C: 818.391.6060 >>>> -------------------- >>>> http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com >>>>=20 >>>> "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" >>>> -Charles Field --Apple-Mail-31594596-44C4-43DD-8A46-D5771807BEB5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ya, the site explanation was confusing= to me and I thought I was misreading when I saw a higher monthly cost point= for the team license versus just getting multiple individual licenses. If t= he team setup requires user accounts per machine, I might as well just get s= ix individuals and when we have less freelancers just cancel the subscriptio= ns for the machines not being used. If we bloat again for a project, just st= art paying the monthly again for those machines. Not only save the differenc= e in monthly cost, but also no need to constantly change user accounts per f= reelancer as they would basically be accounts based on machine. =46rom a fin= ancial standpoint Team makes no sense. It still seems like the same work is b= eing done as would be for an individual setup, so no sell for me honestly. M= aybe that platform works for a large scale company (30+ staff) or something,= but I feel that would be worse somehow. We go from the core three users to a= bloat of twelve maybe and not all are tasked with AE work so I think I may h= ave my answer. Thanks for the feedback all. And Todd I'm sure you'll pass al= ong the thoughts shared here to those that need to know. Maybe a better expl= anation from Adobe could clear things up if I'm missing something too.
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David Torno
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<= span style=3D"font-size: 13pt;">"The most useless day is that in which we do= not laugh"
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On Feb 28, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:

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The teams implementation is pretty as= s backward. Having to create emails for eaxh account doesn't give teams the b= enefits it should have, especially since it costs more. Genius plan

People need to keep letting adobe know that teams implement= ation still needs tweaking 

On Feb 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, D= avid Torno <torno@sydefxink.com> wrote:

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On Feb 28, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Allen Ellis <allen.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:

I was in the exact same situation an felt f= rustrated by the increased cost. Seemed to me that buying in bulk should cos= t less, not more!

To us the real advantage of teams is the centralized billing.= Though you can't really add/subtract seats quickly, if you add a seat you n= eed to pay for the rest of the year for that seat or pay a pro rated penalty= .

Even in teams you have to create individual email accounts fo= r each seat which was also bizarre since we have multiple freelancers rotati= ng thru workstations as needed.

In the end we connected with a local adobe reseller who was a= ble to get us on board a 40% discount adobe was offering on teams, which was= great. Then we setup an email alias for each account that forwards to me: c= c1@, cc2@, cc3@, etc. We share a Google spreadsheet tracking which seats are= activated on which workstation.

On Feb 28, 2014 6:05 PM, "David Torno" <torno@sydefxink.com> wrote:
So I am finally getting my voice heard and the CC con= versation is on the table. Confusion is arising with the plan explanations o= n the Adobe site. What's the advantage of team? It looks as if it's ten doll= ars cheaper to go with multiple individual plans versus team at $30. Am I mi= ssing something? Or is it due to the extra storage and cloud frills offered i= n team. Which are not needed for us. We just want the software. :)

David Torno
Technical Director
O: 21= 3.739.2290
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"The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh"<= /div>
-Charles Field
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