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[24.90.203.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b14sm5574857qga.16.2014.02.28.21.10.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 28 Feb 2014 21:10:20 -0800 (PST) From: Rendernyc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6E4CFA71-38D2-44B9-8964-29265295F78C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [AE] CC license question Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 00:10:20 -0500 References: In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B554a) --Apple-Mail-6E4CFA71-38D2-44B9-8964-29265295F78C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On benefit of teams is some sort of package installer. It wasn't yet availab= le the last place I was at so I don't know how well it works but if you are m= anaging more than a few machines that should be something useful.=20 > On Feb 28, 2014, at 11:10 PM, David Torno wrote: >=20 > Ya, the site explanation was confusing to me and I thought I was misreadin= g when I saw a higher monthly cost point for the team license versus just ge= tting multiple individual licenses. If the team setup requires user accounts= per machine, I might as well just get six individuals and when we have less= freelancers just cancel the subscriptions for the machines not being used. I= f we bloat again for a project, just start paying the monthly again for thos= e machines. Not only save the difference in monthly cost, but also no need t= o constantly change user accounts per freelancer as they would basically be a= ccounts based on machine. =46rom a financial standpoint Team makes no sense.= It still seems like the same work is being done as would be for an individu= al setup, so no sell for me honestly. Maybe that platform works for a large s= cale company (30+ staff) or something, but I feel that would be worse someho= w. We go from the core three users to a bloat of twelve maybe and not all ar= e tasked with AE work so I think I may have my answer. Thanks for the feedba= ck all. And Todd I'm sure you'll pass along the thoughts shared here to thos= e that need to know. Maybe a better explanation from Adobe could clear thing= s up if I'm missing something too. >=20 >=20 > David Torno > Technical Director > http://www.ghosttownmedia.com > O: 213.739.2290 > C: 818.391.6060 > -------------------- > http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com >=20 > "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" > -Charles Field >=20 >> On Feb 28, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >>=20 >> The teams implementation is pretty ass backward. Having to create emails f= or eaxh account doesn't give teams the benefits it should have, especially s= ince it costs more. Genius plan >>=20 >> People need to keep letting adobe know that teams implementation still ne= eds tweaking=20 >>=20 >>> On Feb 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, David Torno wrote: >>>=20 >>> Good to know. That's what my concern was. It's basically a user account t= ied to each seat then? Not just a simple authorization to run AE on six plus= machines using just the one login. We have the freelancer rotation aspect h= ere as well. >>>=20 >>> David Torno >>> Technical Director >>> http://www.ghosttownmedia.com >>> O: 213.739.2290 >>> C: 818.391.6060 >>> -------------------- >>> http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com >>>=20 >>> "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" >>> -Charles Field >>>=20 >>>> On Feb 28, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Allen Ellis wrote:= >>>>=20 >>>> I was in the exact same situation an felt frustrated by the increased c= ost. Seemed to me that buying in bulk should cost less, not more! >>>>=20 >>>> To us the real advantage of teams is the centralized billing. Though yo= u can't really add/subtract seats quickly, if you add a seat you need to pay= for the rest of the year for that seat or pay a pro rated penalty. >>>>=20 >>>> Even in teams you have to create individual email accounts for each sea= t which was also bizarre since we have multiple freelancers rotating thru wo= rkstations as needed. >>>>=20 >>>> In the end we connected with a local adobe reseller who was able to get= us on board a 40% discount adobe was offering on teams, which was great. Th= en we setup an email alias for each account that forwards to me: cc1@, cc2@,= cc3@, etc. We share a Google spreadsheet tracking which seats are activated= on which workstation. >>>>=20 >>>>> On Feb 28, 2014 6:05 PM, "David Torno" wrote: >>>>> So I am finally getting my voice heard and the CC conversation is on t= he table. Confusion is arising with the plan explanations on the Adobe site.= What's the advantage of team? It looks as if it's ten dollars cheaper to go= with multiple individual plans versus team at $30. Am I missing something? O= r is it due to the extra storage and cloud frills offered in team. Which are= not needed for us. We just want the software. :) >>>>>=20 >>>>> David Torno >>>>> Technical Director >>>>> http://www.ghosttownmedia.com >>>>> O: 213.739.2290 >>>>> C: 818.391.6060 >>>>> -------------------- >>>>> http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com >>>>>=20 >>>>> "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" >>>>> -Charles Field --Apple-Mail-6E4CFA71-38D2-44B9-8964-29265295F78C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On benefit of teams is some sort of pa= ckage installer. It wasn't yet available the last place I was at so I don't k= now how well it works but if you are managing more than a few machines that s= hould be something useful. 

On Feb 28, 2014, at 11:10 PM,= David Torno <torno@sydefxink.com<= /a>> wrote:

Ya, the site expl= anation was confusing to me and I thought I was misreading when I saw a high= er monthly cost point for the team license versus just getting multiple indi= vidual licenses. If the team setup requires user accounts per machine, I mig= ht as well just get six individuals and when we have less freelancers just c= ancel the subscriptions for the machines not being used. If we bloat again f= or a project, just start paying the monthly again for those machines. Not on= ly save the difference in monthly cost, but also no need to constantly chang= e user accounts per freelancer as they would basically be accounts based on m= achine. =46rom a financial standpoint Team makes no sense. It still seems li= ke the same work is being done as would be for an individual setup, so no se= ll for me honestly. Maybe that platform works for a large scale company (30+= staff) or something, but I feel that would be worse somehow. We go from the= core three users to a bloat of twelve maybe and not all are tasked with AE w= ork so I think I may have my answer. Thanks for the feedback all. And Todd I= 'm sure you'll pass along the thoughts shared here to those that need to kno= w. Maybe a better explanation from Adobe could clear things up if I'm missin= g something too.


David Torno
Technical Dire= ctor
O: 213.739.2290
C: 818.391.6060
--------------------
<= br>
"The most useless day i= s that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Feb 28, 2014, at 6:45 PM,= Rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:


=
Good to know. That's what my concern was. It's basically a user account= tied to each seat then? Not just a simple authorization to run AE on six pl= us machines using just the one login. We have the freelancer rotation aspect= here as well.

David Torno
Technical Director
= O: 213.739.2290
C: 818.391.6060
--------------------

"The most useless day is that in which we do no= t laugh"
-Charles Field

On Feb 28, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Allen Ellis <allen.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
<= br>

I was in the exact sa= me situation an felt frustrated by the increased cost. Seemed to me that buy= ing in bulk should cost less, not more!

To us the real advantage of teams is the centralized billing.= Though you can't really add/subtract seats quickly, if you add a seat you n= eed to pay for the rest of the year for that seat or pay a pro rated penalty= .

Even in teams you have to create individual email accounts fo= r each seat which was also bizarre since we have multiple freelancers rotati= ng thru workstations as needed.

In the end we connected with a local adobe reseller who was a= ble to get us on board a 40% discount adobe was offering on teams, which was= great. Then we setup an email alias for each account that forwards to me: c= c1@, cc2@, cc3@, etc. We share a Google spreadsheet tracking which seats are= activated on which workstation.

On Feb 28, 2014 6:05 PM, "David Torno" <torno@sydefxink.com> wrote:
So I am finally getting my voice heard and the CC con= versation is on the table. Confusion is arising with the plan explanations o= n the Adobe site. What's the advantage of team? It looks as if it's ten doll= ars cheaper to go with multiple individual plans versus team at $30. Am I mi= ssing something? Or is it due to the extra storage and cloud frills offered i= n team. Which are not needed for us. We just want the software. :)

David Torno
Technical Director
O: 21= 3.739.2290
--------------------

"The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh"<= /div>
-Charles Field
= = --Apple-Mail-6E4CFA71-38D2-44B9-8964-29265295F78C--