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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 10:56:28 -0800
From: Robert Houghton <gfxguy74@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [AE] AI > PSD > AE workflow recommendations?
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There are a few things that scare me about what's being discussed here.

1) Considering how many layers that would occupy a 200+ MB File for HD 
Broadcast, converting those to another format be it PNG or TIF is a 
daunting prospect indeed especially when we are talking about several 
hundred layers (not counting layer styles).

2) What do you do with text provided to you in these instances where you 
need to omit the Photoshop file and use still files to complete 
projects? Normally I would "convert to editable text" with something 
like this but when it's a TIF for example I think that isn't possible.

Tim and I work on these projects and let's just say any proactive 
movement on his part (he's the employee) just gets ignored, especially 
with ever-tightening deadlines. I used to work for the same company 
before going freelance and it just seems to get worse there. BTW, I hope 
I'm not one of the culprits you mention Tim if so my apologies. I'll 
work out a solution with you.

     My description above isn't for the purpose of griping about it, 
that's what a few beers and a dive bar is all about. Aside from the 
obvious layer management that needs to happen with these files. Is there 
a program or script out there that you can quickly use to simplify large 
multi-layered photoshop files like removing duplicate layers and then 
quickly export PNGs or TIF? I almost want to see an exploded layer view 
in Photoshop where you can quickly select trees and identifty what you 
want to remove and what you want broken apart. That would be a god send.

     -Rob

On 3/2/2014 9:28 AM, Tim Thiessen wrote:
> At work when three animators get together we call that group "a complaint"
>
> We get 200mb + files with multiple duplicate "vector smart objects". 
> Our "designers" seem to think "the more the merrier" and if not 
> cleaned up it can grind AE to a halt. I spend the time because I know 
> it will come back to bite me in the butt. But some freelancers don't 
> clean things up and then when it comes back to me it is a big mess - 
> yes I love working with PSDs. Don't get me started on later styles!
>
> Tt
>
> iPhone
>

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">There are a few things that scare me
      about what's being discussed here.<br>
      <br>
      1) Considering how many layers that would occupy a 200+ MB File
      for HD Broadcast, converting those to another format be it PNG or
      TIF is a daunting prospect indeed especially when we are talking
      about several hundred layers (not counting layer styles).<br>
      <br>
      2) What do you do with text provided to you in these instances
      where you need to omit the Photoshop file and use still files to
      complete projects? Normally I would "convert to editable text"
      with something like this but when it's a TIF for example I think
      that isn't possible.<br>
      <br>
      Tim and I work on these projects and let's just say any proactive
      movement on his part (he's the employee) just gets ignored,
      especially with ever-tightening deadlines. I used to work for the
      same company before going freelance and it just seems to get worse
      there. BTW, I hope I'm not one of the culprits you mention Tim if
      so my apologies. I'll work out a solution with you.<br>
      <br>
          My description above isn't for the purpose of griping about
      it, that's what a few beers and a dive bar is all about. Aside
      from the obvious layer management that needs to happen with these
      files. Is there a program or script out there that you can quickly
      use to simplify large multi-layered photoshop files like removing
      duplicate layers and then quickly export PNGs or TIF? I almost
      want to see an exploded layer view in Photoshop where you can
      quickly select trees and identifty what you want to remove and
      what you want broken apart. That would be a god send.<br>
      <br>
          -Rob<br>
      <br>
      On 3/2/2014 9:28 AM, Tim Thiessen wrote:<br>
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      <div>At work when three animators get together we call that group
        "a complaint"</div>
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      <div>We get 200mb + files with multiple duplicate "vector smart
        objects". Our "designers" seem to think "the more the merrier"
        and if not cleaned up it can grind AE to a halt. I spend the
        time because I know it will come back to bite me in the butt.
        But some freelancers don't clean things up and then when it
        comes back to me it is a big mess - yes I love working with
        PSDs. Don't get me started on later styles!</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Tt</div>
      <div><br>
        iPhone</div>
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