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From: Roei Tzoref To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b8737fa48379a04f3b9061f --047d7b8737fa48379a04f3b9061f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks for sharing not to imply you should get rid of the layers :) just that you should merge them if you don't need them separately, which relates to scott's problem. I'm intrigued about the logo with the 600 layers... On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Rendernyc wrote: > It's a logo. So it needs to be precise. > > Trust me if I didn't I wouldn't :) > > I split it into 3 files to get it to import > > On Mar 3, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Roei Tzoref wrote: > > do you really need all those 600 layers in your composition? > if you don't need to move them separately then the answer is no... > even if you do I could only imagine its some sort of particles or fractals > that you could recreate in some other way in AE > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 7:47 PM, rendernyc wrote: > >> and here i am reading this thread and have to say i havent really come >> across these issues. >> >> of course now i reading my email because i am waiting for AE to import a >> 600 layer AI file and it seems to have choked... ugh >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 2:52 PM, scott.aelist wrote: >> >>> If it's helpful i've posted a little diagram of my process here: >>> http://i.imgur.com/resFDjm.jpg >>> Teddy yes I save all my SVOs into one AI file... still, it is very >>> time-consuming to have to handle each of these layers individually. I have >>> move them to a new layer, group them (if the object isn't grouped), scale >>> them up, name the layer... etc etc. I thought I might be able to open the >>> PS in AE but it treats all the SVOs as placed raster objects, not as vector >>> objects. >>> Roei thanks for your comment. If you have any tips i'd love to hear. >>> >>> I feel like there is no quick solution to this and i simply need to file >>> a feature request asking to be able to convert Smart vector objects to >>> shape layers. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Roei Tzoref wrote: >>> >>>> hey scott. >>>> >>>> I would like to help you solve your workflow problem. >>>> >>>> I work on a news channel where we have to deliver very fast and rely on >>>> fast psd/ai->ae workflow >>>> making the shift from psd vectors to ae is kind of my expertise. >>>> I also teach students where troubleshooting psd/ai->ae is my main >>>> teaching focus. >>>> but enough about me, please contact if you still need some help and me >>>> I am pretty sure I can help you sort some of this mess out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:31 AM, scott.aelist wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm frustrated with the amount of redundant file prep i'm having to do >>>>> on a current job and I'm wondering if there's a faster way. I'm tasked with >>>>> animating some little vignettes for a travel show. >>>>> A friend is illustrating the shot in photoshop and then i have to >>>>> animate from the PSD. Ideally I would just import the PSD into AE and go, >>>>> but I can't. A lot of the assets are vector objects so I end up opening >>>>> EVERY SINGLE smart vector object in AI and then I have to save all these >>>>> layers out as AI files. I thought maybe I could import the PSD into AE and >>>>> convert it to shape layers or an AI file there, but no dice. I should also >>>>> mention that I have to scale up all these vector assets 200% because >>>>> sometimes I need layers larger than they appear in the PSD, and if I use >>>>> continually rasterize it often screws up any effects or puppeting I have on >>>>> my layer. This takes an enormous amount of time and my client doesn't >>>>> understand why I can't turn these things out in a day or two, and I have to >>>>> make these dubious-sounding excuses of how I have to 'prepare' all these >>>>> assets for animation. Is there a faster way? And am I the only one who >>>>> scales up all their AI assets before bringing into AE? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> danny princz >> >> vimeo.com/rendernyc >> > > --047d7b8737fa48379a04f3b9061f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks for sharing
not to imply you should get rid of = the layers :)
just that you should merge them if you don't need the= m separately, which relates to scott's problem.

I'm intrigued about the logo with the 600 layers...=A0
=


On Mon, Mar 3= , 2014 at 9:29 PM, Rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
It's a logo. So i= t needs to be precise.=A0

Trust me if I didn't= I wouldn't :)

I split it into 3 files to get it to import=A0

On Mar 3, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Roei Tzoref <yooofi@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

do you really nee= d all those 600 layers in your composition?
if you don't need to mo= ve them separately then the answer is no...=A0
even if you do I c= ould only imagine its some sort of particles or fractals that you could rec= reate in some other way in AE=A0


On Mon,= Mar 3, 2014 at 7:47 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> w= rote:
and here i am reading this = thread and have to say i havent really come across these issues.

of course now i reading my email =A0because i am waiting for AE to imp= ort a 600 layer AI file and it seems to have choked... ugh



On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 2:52 PM, scott.aelist <scott.aelist@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Roei Tzoref <yooofi@gmai= l.com> wrote:
hey scott.

I would like to help you solve your workflow problem.

I work on a news channel where we have to deliver very fast and rely o= n fast psd/ai->ae workflow
making the shift from psd vectors to ae is kind of my expertise.
=
I also teach students where troubleshooting psd/ai->ae is my main t= eaching focus.
but enough about me, please contact if you still n= eed some help and me I am pretty sure I can help you sort some of this mess= out.



On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:31 AM, scott.aelist <scott= .aelist@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm frustrated wit= h the amount of redundant file prep i'm having to do on a current job a= nd I'm wondering if there's a faster way. I'm tasked with anima= ting some little vignettes for a travel show.
A friend is illustrating the shot in photoshop and then i have to ani= mate from the PSD. Ideally I would just import the PSD into AE and go, but = I can't. A lot of the assets are vector objects so I end up opening EVE= RY SINGLE smart vector object in AI and then I have to save all these layer= s out as AI files. I thought maybe I could import the PSD into AE and conve= rt it to shape layers or an AI file there, but no dice. I should also menti= on that I have to scale up all these vector assets 200% because sometimes I= need layers larger than they appear in the PSD, and if I use continually r= asterize it often screws up any effects or puppeting I have on my layer. Th= is takes an enormous amount of time and my client doesn't understand wh= y I can't turn these things out in a day or two, and I have to make the= se dubious-sounding excuses of how I have to 'prepare' all these as= sets for animation. Is there a faster way? And am I the only one who scales= up all their AI assets before bringing into AE?





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danny princz

vimeo.com/rendernyc<= /a>


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