Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com ([209.85.214.170] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5396568 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 21:45:34 +0100 Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id uz6so7419553obc.29 for ; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:46:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+5xqXxQlvPm8tibvLFmZ+2apyaTEM9odE41Lcq+vgvo=; b=Vj55XGMbcKiANX5++SrM5htTQYAPMhYXIQ50j1egJWP9oGvZcb6/V6xENr4WHgt7lG ne+3r1KH9KG7Y21F/jIR9/sJ70fDvPi3ceoFG+U7QkPtHvScIjyeqs/PkyDsFTm1rDOb ISXoQ4Au2kM9M8toBWGeIR/nWXc8TckMxvA2AC092yQTTgJ6UzTl00BRZvKIT/9stDme lKJcJMzzVJd9hssqf3neBIg2cE+/4W7i2sWB/rldC3bTGhNjCJsUFwh0nxOL1JpE540a sYl1fVLDIPzw3Gii3/5kR8dD1N48K4mM49mckHDCTHRyo1qRE8itObh55jRI0lSjBA7o WNLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.97.67 with SMTP id dy3mr71303obb.84.1393879559989; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.173.134 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 12:45:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 15:45:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] AI > PSD > AE workflow recommendations? From: rendernyc To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e4c0208711604f3b9e0cd --047d7b2e4c0208711604f3b9e0cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just a bunch of diferent shaped dots and ovalish shapes that make up part of a globe that is part of a larger logo. wanted to have them each build on in one color with some inertia bounce and then scale back down down leaving the the 100% scale dot in the logo color behind. fill color with the non logo color take a layer and use transform effect with 0->100->0 scale with an inertia expression set anchor and position to width/2 CC composite set to behind to leave the logo color at proper size and position behind. opacity is 0 hold kf then 100 at scale 100 copy effects category and paste to all select all and use rift to randmize start point and you have a nice effect in a few minutes of work On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Roei Tzoref wrote: > thanks for sharing > not to imply you should get rid of the layers :) > just that you should merge them if you don't need them separately, which > relates to scott's problem. > > I'm intrigued about the logo with the 600 layers... > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Rendernyc wrote: > >> It's a logo. So it needs to be precise. >> >> Trust me if I didn't I wouldn't :) >> >> I split it into 3 files to get it to import >> >> On Mar 3, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Roei Tzoref wrote: >> >> do you really need all those 600 layers in your composition? >> if you don't need to move them separately then the answer is no... >> even if you do I could only imagine its some sort of particles or >> fractals that you could recreate in some other way in AE >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 7:47 PM, rendernyc wrote: >> >>> and here i am reading this thread and have to say i havent really come >>> across these issues. >>> >>> of course now i reading my email because i am waiting for AE to import >>> a 600 layer AI file and it seems to have choked... ugh >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 2:52 PM, scott.aelist wrote: >>> >>>> If it's helpful i've posted a little diagram of my process here: >>>> http://i.imgur.com/resFDjm.jpg >>>> Teddy yes I save all my SVOs into one AI file... still, it is very >>>> time-consuming to have to handle each of these layers individually. I have >>>> move them to a new layer, group them (if the object isn't grouped), scale >>>> them up, name the layer... etc etc. I thought I might be able to open the >>>> PS in AE but it treats all the SVOs as placed raster objects, not as vector >>>> objects. >>>> Roei thanks for your comment. If you have any tips i'd love to hear. >>>> >>>> I feel like there is no quick solution to this and i simply need to >>>> file a feature request asking to be able to convert Smart vector objects to >>>> shape layers. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Roei Tzoref wrote: >>>> >>>>> hey scott. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to help you solve your workflow problem. >>>>> >>>>> I work on a news channel where we have to deliver very fast and rely >>>>> on fast psd/ai->ae workflow >>>>> making the shift from psd vectors to ae is kind of my expertise. >>>>> I also teach students where troubleshooting psd/ai->ae is my main >>>>> teaching focus. >>>>> but enough about me, please contact if you still need some help and me >>>>> I am pretty sure I can help you sort some of this mess out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:31 AM, scott.aelist wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm frustrated with the amount of redundant file prep i'm having to >>>>>> do on a current job and I'm wondering if there's a faster way. I'm tasked >>>>>> with animating some little vignettes for a travel show. >>>>>> A friend is illustrating the shot in photoshop and then i have to >>>>>> animate from the PSD. Ideally I would just import the PSD into AE and go, >>>>>> but I can't. A lot of the assets are vector objects so I end up opening >>>>>> EVERY SINGLE smart vector object in AI and then I have to save all these >>>>>> layers out as AI files. I thought maybe I could import the PSD into AE and >>>>>> convert it to shape layers or an AI file there, but no dice. I should also >>>>>> mention that I have to scale up all these vector assets 200% because >>>>>> sometimes I need layers larger than they appear in the PSD, and if I use >>>>>> continually rasterize it often screws up any effects or puppeting I have on >>>>>> my layer. This takes an enormous amount of time and my client doesn't >>>>>> understand why I can't turn these things out in a day or two, and I have to >>>>>> make these dubious-sounding excuses of how I have to 'prepare' all these >>>>>> assets for animation. Is there a faster way? And am I the only one who >>>>>> scales up all their AI assets before bringing into AE? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> danny princz >>> >>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>> >> >> > -- danny princz vimeo.com/rendernyc --047d7b2e4c0208711604f3b9e0cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
just a bunch of diferent shaped dots and ovalish shapes th= at make up part of a globe that is part of a larger logo.

wanted to have them each build on in one color with some inertia bounce a= nd then scale back down down leaving the the 100% scale dot in the logo col= or behind.

fill color with the non logo color
take a lay= er and use transform effect with 0->100->0 scale with an inertia expr= ession
set anchor and position to width/2
CC composite = set to behind to leave the logo color at proper size and position behind.= =A0
opacity is 0 hold kf then 100 at scale 100

co= py effects category and paste to all

select all an= d use rift to randmize start point and you have a nice effect in a few minu= tes of work


On Mon,= Mar 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Roei Tzoref <yooofi@gmail.com> wrote= :
thanks for sharing
not to imply you should get rid of = the layers :)
just that you should merge them if you don't need the= m separately, which relates to scott's problem.

I'm intrigued about the logo with the 600 layers...=A0
=


=
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Rendernyc <re= ndernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
It's a logo. So i= t needs to be precise.=A0

Trust me if I didn't= I wouldn't :)

I split it into 3 files to get it to import=A0

On Mar 3, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Roei Tzoref <yooofi@gmail.com> wrote:

do you really nee= d all those 600 layers in your composition?
if you don't need to mo= ve them separately then the answer is no...=A0
even if you do I c= ould only imagine its some sort of particles or fractals that you could rec= reate in some other way in AE=A0


On Mon,= Mar 3, 2014 at 7:47 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> w= rote:
and here i am reading this = thread and have to say i havent really come across these issues.

of course now i reading my email =A0because i am waiting for AE to imp= ort a 600 layer AI file and it seems to have choked... ugh



On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 2:52 PM, scott.aelist <scott.aelist@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Roei Tzoref <yooofi@gmai= l.com> wrote:
hey scott.

I would like to help you solve your workflow problem.

I work on a news channel where we have to deliver very fast and rely o= n fast psd/ai->ae workflow
making the shift from psd vectors to ae is kind of my expertise.
=
I also teach students where troubleshooting psd/ai->ae is my main t= eaching focus.
but enough about me, please contact if you still n= eed some help and me I am pretty sure I can help you sort some of this mess= out.



On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:31 AM, scott.aelist <scott= .aelist@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm frustrated wit= h the amount of redundant file prep i'm having to do on a current job a= nd I'm wondering if there's a faster way. I'm tasked with anima= ting some little vignettes for a travel show.
A friend is illustrating the shot in photoshop and then i have to ani= mate from the PSD. Ideally I would just import the PSD into AE and go, but = I can't. A lot of the assets are vector objects so I end up opening EVE= RY SINGLE smart vector object in AI and then I have to save all these layer= s out as AI files. I thought maybe I could import the PSD into AE and conve= rt it to shape layers or an AI file there, but no dice. I should also menti= on that I have to scale up all these vector assets 200% because sometimes I= need layers larger than they appear in the PSD, and if I use continually r= asterize it often screws up any effects or puppeting I have on my layer. Th= is takes an enormous amount of time and my client doesn't understand wh= y I can't turn these things out in a day or two, and I have to make the= se dubious-sounding excuses of how I have to 'prepare' all these as= sets for animation. Is there a faster way? And am I the only one who scales= up all their AI assets before bringing into AE?





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danny princz

vimeo.com/rendernyc<= /a>





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