Return-Path: Received: from st11p01mm-asmtp002.mac.com ([17.172.204.237] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5403707 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 23:48:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.11.15] (CPE68b6fcf475f3-CM68b6fcf475f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.224.116.142]) by st11p01mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N2800JWYSQCQ670@st11p01mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:49:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-03-10_04:2014-03-10,2014-03-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1401130000 definitions=main-1403100130 From: sean cusson Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9241E3BC-6555-4BC0-ACA3-2D2D865AD06B Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale at toolfarm Message-id: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:49:24 -0400 References: In-reply-to: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) --Apple-Mail-9241E3BC-6555-4BC0-ACA3-2D2D865AD06B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Considering how tightly integrated AE and C4D are becoming, it's starting to= feel like they're owned by the same company as it is (and that being a good= thing).=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:15 PM, brian@totaltraining.com wrote: >=20 > I thought it was a shame that Adobe never purchased SketchUp., even as a m= odeler for Photoshop and AE. Instead Google bought it, and then subsequently= dumped it. > =20 > It's a great modeler (for simple things anyway). > =20 > B > =20 > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Teddy Gage" > To: "After Effects Mail List" > Sent: 3/10/2014 6:11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale at tool= farm > =20 >> > -tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own, y= a know? >>=20 >> People said that is why AD originally bought SI - to keep it from Adobe.=20= >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Gary Reisman wrot= e: >>> I almost forgot it existed! >>> Can't recall the last time I read about it being used in any of the trad= e mags or online. >>>=20 >>> But makes perfect sense considering Autodesk has so many other 3d apps, a= nd I'm sure they'll offer owners the opportunity to up/side-grade to Maya. >>> -tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own, y= a know? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, rendernyc wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> i dont think anyone who uses, develops for or has built there pipeline a= round Soft is surprised. =20 >>>> disappointed im sure but the writing has been on the wall for years.=20= >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Teddy Gage wrot= e: >>>>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/autodesk-will-discontin= ue-softimage-software-685939 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Great software, it will probably end up in Autodesk's basement somewhe= re, they have already stated they won't sell it off because it contains too m= any of their IPs or something. They just completed the LEGO movie using SI. I= t has a pretty fantastic node scripting language. I feel terrible for shops t= hat built their whole pipelines on SI. Or plugin developers who wasted thous= ands. AD are pushing everyone to Max or Maya instead. For an interesting per= spective there is a thread on cgsociety here >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=3D59&t=3D1160981 >>>>>=20 >>>>> And probably not a coincidence, but a heads up if anyone was looking t= o upgrade, there is 10% off C4D upgrades at toolfarm this month, with added d= iscount for your C4D lite licenses that come with AE CC. Not a shill, but it= 's good software, and definitely complements my Maya knowledge. People are s= aying they will jump ship to=20 >>>>> C4D, Houdini, Modo or even Blender instead of staying with Autodesk.=20= >>>>> -TG=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> _____________________________ >>>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>>> teddygage dot com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> danny princz >>>>=20 >>>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com --Apple-Mail-9241E3BC-6555-4BC0-ACA3-2D2D865AD06B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Considering how tightly integrated AE and C4D are becoming, it's starting to feel like they're owned by the same company as it is (and that being a good thing). 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:15 PM, brian@totaltraining.com wrote:

I thought it was a shame that Adobe never purchased SketchUp., even as a modeler for Photoshop and AE. Instead Google bought it, and then subsequently dumped it.
 
It's a great modeler (for simple things anyway).
 
B
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Teddy Gage" <teddygage@gmail.com>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 3/10/2014 6:11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale at toolfarm
 
> -tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own, ya know?

People said that is why AD originally bought SI - to keep it from Adobe. 


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Gary Reisman <garyreisman@mac.com> wrote:
I almost forgot it existed!
Can't recall the last time I read about it being used in any of the trade mags or online.

But makes perfect sense considering Autodesk has so many other 3d apps, and I'm sure they'll offer owners the opportunity to up/side-grade to Maya.
-tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own, ya know?


On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:

i dont think anyone who uses, develops for or has built there pipeline around Soft is surprised.
disappointed im sure but the writing has been on the wall for years. 


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/autodesk-will-discontinue-softimage-software-685939

Great software, it will probably end up in Autodesk's basement somewhere, they have already stated they won't sell it off because it contains too many of their IPs or something. They just completed the LEGO movie using SI. It has a pretty fantastic node scripting language. I feel terrible for shops that built their whole pipelines on SI. Or plugin developers who wasted thousands. AD are pushing everyone to Max or Maya instead. For an interesting perspective there is a thread on cgsociety here


And probably not a coincidence, but a heads up if anyone was looking to upgrade, there is 10% off C4D upgrades at toolfarm this month, with added discount for your C4D lite licenses that come with AE CC. Not a shill, but it's good software, and definitely complements my Maya knowledge. People are saying they will jump ship to 
C4D, Houdini, Modo or even Blender instead of staying with Autodesk. 
-TG 



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