Return-Path: Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com ([209.85.128.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5403724 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 00:12:36 +0100 Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id pa12so8021816veb.0 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:13:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qlKdfKrtR4Rp5GzztlmvAPeLmEmaexKAMLaY5AvZ3aw=; b=QX2qJr6zGVaWEEPVJ5TPdwFaaE0bcAh9w/PZ+uFBZBehbn8/TKun9Yr2ZYy1pXTwKv TEStzTtyeaULzje0g3Vvx+yofFDo6wJ14+Go2vts4NwR+ea5BvqRnCXGn0D3yxAWhtk5 wJhm/LOzyx9GFStC68p7A8aUcMOUH94CGUFpv7p3WWPLL/GFvufrKQZyYqmyfLneTukp MoDYdbQwmEWfY8TsaQprWUTolHJA9Wh5tSMOLU71+9qqcmJt0cIG2wvKQgF25KxYicV3 PyLRalRTrA8GXVr59NDAG5lgJ5/cpuomBfG+9rv8rlrqy6qDKBMbjMEWM87AHU0Ndsjs RWGw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnYP//06eIy2cES6sNeRK5yoGGB5OCD/5UEYELUbzI4MRKGfDT0TpKkO7C4oN37ZBkwKU6F MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.18.70 with SMTP id u6mr24776447vdd.11.1394493196527; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.182.67 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.182.67 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:13:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 00:13:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale at toolfarm From: Robert Kjettrup To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1136b6669f00fb04f448bf07 --001a1136b6669f00fb04f448bf07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The rumor was that Autodesk, Dassault Systems and Adobe bid for Softimage when Avid was selling it. Too bad that the worst possible buyer got it. Im still using Softimage and every time i open another 3d app, i get very sad how bad they all are ux wise compared to Softimage. It is so logical built up and fast to use, and Im sure most AE would have loved it if Adobe bought it, maybe even forced to give AE to get some of the very nice UX features from Softimage :-) All text based, no stupid icon hell like Maya and Cinema, and this way before the current typography based UI trend :-D But I can also understand why Adobe didnt buy it, with the codebase of SI so tightly connected to Windows from the time when Microsoft owned them, making a osx port very hard. RIP Softimage :-( - Robert Den 10/03/2014 23.15 skrev : > Considering how tightly integrated AE and C4D are becoming, it's starting > to feel like they're owned by the same company as it is (and that being a > good thing). > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:15 PM, brian@totaltraining.com wrote: > > I thought it was a shame that Adobe never purchased SketchUp., even as a > modeler for Photoshop and AE. Instead Google bought it, and then > subsequently dumped it. > > It's a great modeler (for simple things anyway). > > B > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Teddy Gage" > To: "After Effects Mail List" > Sent: 3/10/2014 6:11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale at > toolfarm > > > > -tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own, > ya know? > > People said that is why AD originally bought SI - to keep it from Adobe. > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Gary Reisman wrote: > >> I almost forgot it existed! >> Can't recall the last time I read about it being used in any of the trade >> mags or online. >> >> But makes perfect sense considering Autodesk has so many other 3d apps, >> and I'm sure they'll offer owners the opportunity to up/side-grade to Maya. >> -tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own, ya >> know? >> >> >> On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, rendernyc wrote: >> >> i dont think anyone who uses, develops for or has built there pipeline >> around Soft is surprised. >> disappointed im sure but the writing has been on the wall for years. >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/autodesk-will-discontinue-softimage-software-685939 >>> >>> Great software, it will probably end up in Autodesk's basement >>> somewhere, they have already stated they won't sell it off because it >>> contains too many of their IPs or something. They just completed the LEGO >>> movie using SI. It has a pretty fantastic node scripting language. I feel >>> terrible for shops that built their whole pipelines on SI. Or plugin >>> developers who wasted thousands. AD are pushing everyone to Max or Maya >>> instead. For an interesting perspective there is a thread on cgsociety here >>> >>> http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=59&t=1160981 >>> >>> And probably not a coincidence, but a heads up if anyone was looking to >>> upgrade, there is 10% off C4D upgrades at toolfarm this month, with added >>> discount for your C4D lite licenses that come with AE CC. Not a shill, but >>> it's good software, and definitely complements my Maya knowledge. People >>> are saying they will jump ship to >>> C4D, Houdini, Modo or even Blender instead of staying with Autodesk. >>> -TG >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________ >>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>> teddygage dot com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> danny princz >> >> vimeo.com/rendernyc >> >> >> > > > -- > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com > > --001a1136b6669f00fb04f448bf07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The rumor was that Autodesk, Dassault Systems and Adobe bid = for Softimage when Avid was selling it. Too bad that the worst possible buy= er got it.

Im still using Softimage and every time i open another 3d ap= p, i get very sad how bad they all are ux wise compared to Softimage. It is= so logical built up and fast to use, and Im sure most AE would have loved = it if Adobe bought it, maybe even forced to give AE to get some of the very= nice UX features from Softimage :-)
All text based, no stupid icon hell like Maya and Cinema, and this way befo= re the current typography based UI trend :-D

But I can also understand why Adobe didnt buy it, with the c= odebase of SI so tightly connected to Windows from the time when Microsoft = owned them, making a osx port very hard.

RIP Softimage :-(

- Robert

Den 10/03/2014 23.15 skrev <brian@totaltraining.com>:
Considering how tightly integrated AE and C4D are be= coming, it's starting to feel like they're owned by the same compan= y as it is (and that being a good thing).=A0

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:15 PM, brian@totaltraining.com wrote:

I thought it was a shame that Adobe never purchased SketchUp., even as= a modeler for Photoshop and AE. Instead Google bought it, and then subsequ= ently dumped it.
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It's a great modeler (for simple things anyway).
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Teddy Gage" <teddygage@gmail.com>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 3/10/2014 6:11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale= at toolfarm
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>=A0-tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their = own, ya know?=20

People sai= d that is why AD originally bought SI - to keep it from Adobe.=A0


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Gary Reisman <garyreisman@mac.com> wrote:
I almost forgot it existed!=20
Can't recall the last time I read about it being used in any of th= e trade mags or online.

But makes perfect sense considering Autodesk has so many other 3d apps= , and I'm sure they'll offer owners the opportunity to up/side-grad= e to Maya.
-tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own,= ya know?


On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:

i dont think anyone who uses, develops for or has built th= ere pipeline around Soft is surprised.=20
disappointed im sure but the writing has been on the wall for years.= =A0


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Teddy Gage <= teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
http= ://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/autodesk-will-discontinue-softim= age-software-685939=20

Great software, it will probably end up in Autodesk's basement som= ewhere, they have already stated they won't sell it off because it cont= ains too many of their IPs or something. They just completed the LEGO movie= using SI. It has a pretty fantastic node scripting language. I feel terrib= le for shops that built their whole pipelines on SI. Or plugin developers w= ho wasted thousands. AD are pushing everyone to Max or Maya instead. For an= interesting perspective there is a thread on cgsociety here


And probably not a coincidence, but a heads up if anyone was looking t= o upgrade, there is 10% off C4D upgrades at toolfarm this month, with added= discount for your C4D lite licenses that come with AE CC. Not a shill, but= it's good software, and definitely complements my Maya knowledge. Peop= le are saying they will jump ship to=A0
C4D, Houdini, Modo or even Blender instead of staying with Autodesk.= =A0
-TG=A0



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