Return-Path: Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com ([209.85.215.54] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5404488 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:39:54 +0100 Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id mc6so5902436lab.41 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:40:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=T4uZbE68+o+gKtb600Mx65pWOeCJhDeKO92eB73/XRo=; b=UZhtdcK3WOydi2G0SJ+X4LhMUnSpYi4f4dJKIwyyqC31Dia43TlNoLdK5/6AmqZ/Nb UObw+BhXKsoad1OcR/Nw4lKmsaTqPTKUu8N34eKt3i6R2I93V7FlMOSfONLfgpw9hIob K5qHXv5SHpaFhZMZZ0VakKqQi29xDHatx/SOrzRTTOHNopoLeOBO+updcmij9L3qpJzv i6sLi48WZnw5zcnTt7suzikNIiFOaVuYxTeuO4Bl7/JUd/leL6PskKWHoDFHtIDKKAgz NmRAjdMJN3E/o6FKQYGb01/RK7mgBpZ0QYm9BUQ84sxpzISFyHGQOeiA0mCRNP1n7Z3h Vo/Q== X-Received: by 10.152.2.225 with SMTP id 1mr3069815lax.37.1394566837946; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:40:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.116.104 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:40:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Byron Nash Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:40:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale at toolfarm To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c61a0fdcdba04f459e417 --089e013c61a0fdcdba04f459e417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *Gary*, Softimage was used to create the recent Lego movie that has done very well in theaters. Also, all the finalists in the recent British Animation Awards (tv commercials) did their work in Softimage. Similarly, both silver and gold award winners in the 3d animation category at this year=E2=80=99s British Television Advertising Craft awards were Softimage companies. Softimage definitely had a larger presence in Europe and especially Japan. Softimage scaled well and really shone in small to mid-sized outfits since it was full featured out of the box. It is truly a sad thing to see such a capable tool get swept away. One in which many of us have invested decades to master. There is a furor going on over on the Softimage list and many company owners are speaking up about it. I personally have lost what little respect I had for Autodesk and am looking to move onto some other company's offering once I have to leave Softimage. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:15 PM, rendernyc wrote: > i missed where they sold it as well. interesting. that seemed to have bee= n > done pretty quietly. > > Im surprised they didnt keep it with the rising interest in 3d printing > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM, adam mercado wrote: > >> Well there you go. Had no idea. Google never informed us, you'd think >> they would let their user base know, especially SUPro users. >> >> That article did not mention the object library, 3DWarehouse or whatever >> it is called . Didn't Google own that too, was that part of the package >> that got sold? That was half of what makes SU so useful. >> >> >> *Adam Mercado* >> Influxx Media Production >> Fullerton, CA >> >> Moving Images. For Business >> *714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896* >> http://www.influxx.com >> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 11, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Evan Fotis wrote: >> >> http://www.mastersketchup.com/why-google-doesnt-need-sketchup-anymore/ >> On 11-Mar-14 18:23, adam mercado wrote: >> >> Google dumped SketchUP? Thats news to me. I use the free version of SU >> which I updated just recently, and my wife - an interior designer - uses >> the pro version all the time. SU is going nowhere for a while for us. >> >> >> *Adam Mercado* >> Influxx Media Production >> Fullerton, CA >> >> Moving Images. For Business >> *714=EF=BF=BD928=EF=BF=BD9896* >> http://www.influxx.com >> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:15 PM, brian@totaltraining.com wrote: >> >> I thought it was a shame that Adobe never purchased SketchUp., even as >> a modeler for Photoshop and AE. Instead Google bought it, and then >> subsequently dumped it. >> >> It's a great modeler (for simple things anyway). >> >> B >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Teddy Gage" >> To: "After Effects Mail List" >> Sent: 3/10/2014 6:11:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale at >> toolfarm >> >> >> > -tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own, >> ya know? >> >> People said that is why AD originally bought SI - to keep it from >> Adobe. >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Gary Reisman >> wrote: >> >>> I almost forgot it existed! >>> Can't recall the last time I read about it being used in any of the >>> trade mags or online. >>> >>> But makes perfect sense considering Autodesk has so many other 3d >>> apps, and I'm sure they'll offer owners the opportunity to up/side-grad= e to >>> Maya. >>> -tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own, >>> ya know? >>> >>> >>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, rendernyc wrote: >>> >>> i dont think anyone who uses, develops for or has built there pipeline >>> around Soft is surprised. >>> disappointed im sure but the writing has been on the wall for years. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Teddy Gage wrote= : >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/autodesk-will-discontin= ue-softimage-software-685939 >>>> >>>> Great software, it will probably end up in Autodesk's basement >>>> somewhere, they have already stated they won't sell it off because it >>>> contains too many of their IPs or something. They just completed the L= EGO >>>> movie using SI. It has a pretty fantastic node scripting language. I f= eel >>>> terrible for shops that built their whole pipelines on SI. Or plugin >>>> developers who wasted thousands. AD are pushing everyone to Max or May= a >>>> instead. For an interesting perspective there is a thread on cgsociety= here >>>> >>>> http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=3D59&t=3D1160981 >>>> >>>> And probably not a coincidence, but a heads up if anyone was looking >>>> to upgrade, there is 10% off C4D upgrades at toolfarm this month, with >>>> added discount for your C4D lite licenses that come with AE CC. Not a >>>> shill, but it's good software, and definitely complements my Maya >>>> knowledge. People are saying they will jump ship to >>>> C4D, Houdini, Modo or even Blender instead of staying with Autodesk. >>>> -TG >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____________________________ >>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>> teddygage dot com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> danny princz >>> >>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > danny princz > > vimeo.com/rendernyc > --089e013c61a0fdcdba04f459e417 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary, Softimage was used to create the recent Lego = movie that has done very well in theaters. Also, all the=C2=A0finalists in = the recent British Animation Awards (tv commercials) did their work in Soft= image. Similarly, both silver and gold award winners in the 3d animation ca= tegory at this year=E2=80=99s British Television Advertising Craft awards w= ere Softimage companies. Softimage definitely had a larger presence in Euro= pe and especially Japan. Softimage scaled well and really shone in small to= mid-sized outfits since it was full featured out of the box. =C2=A0

It is truly a sad thing to see such a capable tool get swept= away. One in which many of us have invested decades to master. There is a = furor going on over on the Softimage list and many company owners are speak= ing up about it. I personally have lost what little respect I had for Autod= esk and am looking to move onto some other company's offering once I ha= ve to leave Softimage.



On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:15 PM, rendernyc = <rendernyc@gmai= l.com> wrote:
i missed where they sold it= as well. interesting. that seemed to have been done pretty quietly.
Im surprised they didnt keep it with the rising interest in 3d p= rinting


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM, adam m= ercado <adam@influxx.com> wrote:
Well there you go. Had no idea. Google never informed us, you'd think t= hey would let their user base know, especially SUPro users.=C2=A0

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That article did not mention the object library, 3DWarehouse or w= hatever it is called . Didn't Google own that too, was that part of the= package that got sold? That was half of what makes SU so useful.


Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Fullerton,= CA

Moving Images. For Business
714= =C2=B0928=C2=B09896

On Mar 11, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Evan Foti= s wrote:

Google dumped= SketchUP? Thats news to me. I use the free version of SU which I upda= ted just recently, and my wife - an interior designer - uses the pro v= ersion all the time. SU is going nowhere for a while for us.

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Productio= n
Fullerton, CA
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Moving Imag= es. For Business
714=EF=BF=BD928=EF=BF=BD9896
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On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:15 PM, brian@totaltraining.c= om wrote:

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I thought it was a shame that Adobe never purchased Sketch= Up., even as a modeler for Photoshop and AE. Instead Googl= e bought it, and then subsequently dumped it.
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It's a great modeler (for simple thing= s anyway).
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From: "Teddy Gage" <teddygage@gmail.com>
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Sent: 3/10/2014 6:11:23 PM
S= ubject: Re: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI &am= p; C4D Sale at toolfarm
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People said that is why = AD originally bought SI - to keep it from = Adobe.=C2=A0

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Gary Reisman=C2=A0<garyreisman@mac.com>=C2=A0wrot= e:
I almost = forgot it existed!
C= an't recall the last time I read about it = being used in any of the trade mags or online.=

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But makes perfect sense considering = Autodesk has so many other 3d apps, and = I'm sure they'll offer owners the = opportunity to up/side-grade to Maya.
-tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never = acquired a 3d app of their own, ya know?
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On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, = rendernyc <= rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
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i dont think anyone = who uses, develops for or has = built there pipeline around Soft = is surprised. =
disappointed im sure but the writi= ng has been on the wall for years.= =C2=A0
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On Mon, = Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Teddy = Gage=C2=A0<teddygage@gmail.com>=C2=A0wrote:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/be= hind-screen/autodesk-will-discontinue-softimage-software-685939 =

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Great software, it = will probably end up in = Autodesk's basement = somewhere, they have = already stated they = won't sell it off becaus= e it contains too many of th= eir IPs or something. They j= ust completed the LEGO movie= using SI. It has a = pretty fantastic node = scripting language. I = feel terrible for shops = that built their whole = pipelines on SI. Or = plugin developers who = wasted thousands. AD are = pushing everyone to Max or = Maya instead. For an interes= ting perspective there is a = thread on cgsociety here

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And probably no= t a coincidence, but a heads= up if anyone was looking = to upgrade, there is 10% = off C4D upgrades at = toolfarm this month, = with added discount for = your C4D lite licenses = that come with AE CC. = Not a shill, but it's = good software, and = definitely complements my M= aya knowledge. People are sa= ying they will jump ship to= =C2=A0
C4D, Houdini, Modo or = even Blender instead of = staying with Autodesk.=C2=A0
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