Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #53231
From: Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AE] How do I quickly rearrange a Sure Target 2 camera layout?
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:47:10 -0400
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Mathias, that is exactly what I was saying. It seems like a tricky flaw in the design to get around. Considering it's a free plugin, I doubt they are willing to invest the time. That is a smart solution for your autofocus, but not as useful without linking to the move targets. If you made an improved Sure Target, I would buy it in a second. And by the way, your layer placement scripts saved me literally days of work on this project. I am going to post it as soon as I am done, I think it is a good example of what your scripts can do. 

For example, I had a sequence where the camera runs down a line of 10 products. I set up the products in 3d space aligned using 3D line layer placement plugin, then generated sure targets and used the same iExpression to match up the products and the camera targets. Then I only needed two 3D null controllers to change the entire camera animation, timing, and product alignment in 3D space. Notes that would have taken hours were almost instant fixes. 

Anyway, I ended up making a full copy of the original camera rig and the first ten targets, moved the entire timeline of 253 layers ahead by 20 seconds and inserted the new clips at the beginning, cutting and pasting properties between the original targets and the new camera rig system. Then I transitioned between the cloned targets and the original targets in the old camera system where it crossed over so it was seamless. Although I had to counter-rotate the entire set at one point in order to loop back to the original coordinates. It took way too much time to figure that out.
-TG 


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Davidson <robdav@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
Hi Teddy,
If I’m understanding correctly….couldn’t you just rename all the targets (and option/drag to replace them), so that the order of appearance is how the client wants it?
Cheers, Rob


On 8 Mar 2014, at 5:00 am, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

EDIT:
 >instead of smoothly animation from where target 35 is in 3d space over to where target 35 is, so the target order is VERY important. 

Meant to say:  "instead of smoothly animating from where target 25 is in 3d space over to where target 35 is, so the target order is VERY important." 


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
    So this may be a bit complicated to explain, but I will do my best. I am coming to the end of a project where I did the whole layout using Sure Target 2.0 (free plugin available from video copilot, it's a life saver) in conjunction with Simple Camera Rig (plugin from aescripts.com, but not really relevent to this), it has about 35 targets (representing camera move positions) that are represented by 3D nulls. You then plug these nulls into the plugin script and it automates camera moves between targets with predefined settings. It makes a lot of issues of working with AE's camera much faster. However, now the client has asked for a section of the piece moved to the beginning of the video and this really f***s up the whole layout. 

Because these targets are laid out in sequence numbered 1-35, in order to retime the whole thing I'd either have to move every keyframe denoting which target to hit, or rebuild the entire ordered number sequence of targets. This is because if you set a keyframe for the camera to animate between targets 25-35, it will hit every target in sequence between those numbers, instead of smoothly animation from where target 35 is in 3d space over to where target 35 is, so the target order is VERY important. 

At this point I am thinking of simply cheating the middle section to the beginning with a second camera in a precomp, while keeping the overall target sequence order intact. 

To anyone not familiar with this plugin this may all sound like nonsense, but would anyone familiar with Sure Target be able to offer another idea? My brain is pretty fried on this one. 
-TG

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