Return-Path: Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com ([209.85.220.173] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5404528 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:36:14 +0100 Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id il7so4261994vcb.32 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:36:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+sape+XXI0AKcJ2OrpHpNXfHSxovWyAzFWodxfhioyM=; b=qUsCl6Vuv/B8xXJS/pDt1Cf/TV+OlCXFFKhW0093cy/BI7fKgTjuJrIrnoHfS1qv/Q pQiZkxpEO8CWUNzMdsIOVoMOIsoRXEosrWcbD1HIdoucpeHGqp3Ota2MowAW+OKBMmuj U2JMXbbnOvTMvBZY5ZrnESp2okHD7sk/nwGsWqZDxguliUzc9Vwz365uUyG91MwFpjnC Tna9wUNj5DUKrkeLSYniZpuOy+2X6o/d7fOOd+y0QwtBpadaSYqOsgykFreAKskws6QZ wX4OOASLHJBG9FJsDOpyEAdPUs6wlcOq8TkrzL3JUN+MJaHk1289w0CNHFmir39FBqXe 808w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.236.234 with SMTP id ux10mr25553vec.60.1394570216449; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.166.130 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:36:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:36:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Re[2]: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale at toolfarm From: Py Fave To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6ac065dae7f04f45aae3a --047d7bd6ac065dae7f04f45aae3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable did someone use macromind director here ? :-) 2014-03-11 20:57 GMT+01:00 Phil Williams : > Spot on Byron, this is a good summary of the what's really happening with > Softimage. > > I think the negative impact is bigger than Autodesk expected. I would muc= h > rather deal with a company like The Foundry or Maxon in the future. > > > > On 11 March 2014 19:40, Byron Nash wrote: > >> *Gary*, Softimage was used to create the recent Lego movie that has done >> very well in theaters. Also, all the finalists in the recent British >> Animation Awards (tv commercials) did their work in Softimage. Similarly= , >> both silver and gold award winners in the 3d animation category at this >> year=E2=80=99s British Television Advertising Craft awards were Softimag= e >> companies. Softimage definitely had a larger presence in Europe and >> especially Japan. Softimage scaled well and really shone in small to >> mid-sized outfits since it was full featured out of the box. >> >> It is truly a sad thing to see such a capable tool get swept away. One i= n >> which many of us have invested decades to master. There is a furor going= on >> over on the Softimage list and many company owners are speaking up about >> it. I personally have lost what little respect I had for Autodesk and am >> looking to move onto some other company's offering once I have to leave >> Softimage. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:15 PM, rendernyc wrote: >> >>> i missed where they sold it as well. interesting. that seemed to have >>> been done pretty quietly. >>> >>> Im surprised they didnt keep it with the rising interest in 3d printing >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM, adam mercado wrote= : >>> >>>> Well there you go. Had no idea. Google never informed us, you'd think >>>> they would let their user base know, especially SUPro users. >>>> >>>> That article did not mention the object library, 3DWarehouse or >>>> whatever it is called . Didn't Google own that too, was that part of t= he >>>> package that got sold? That was half of what makes SU so useful. >>>> >>>> >>>> *Adam Mercado* >>>> Influxx Media Production >>>> Fullerton, CA >>>> >>>> Moving Images. For Business >>>> *714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896* >>>> http://www.influxx.com >>>> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >>>> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Evan Fotis wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.mastersketchup.com/why-google-doesnt-need-sketchup-anymore/ >>>> On 11-Mar-14 18:23, adam mercado wrote: >>>> >>>> Google dumped SketchUP? Thats news to me. I use the free version of SU >>>> which I updated just recently, and my wife - an interior designer - us= es >>>> the pro version all the time. SU is going nowhere for a while for us. >>>> >>>> >>>> *Adam Mercado* >>>> Influxx Media Production >>>> Fullerton, CA >>>> >>>> Moving Images. For Business >>>> *714=EF=BF=BD928=EF=BF=BD9896* >>>> http://www.influxx.com >>>> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >>>> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:15 PM, brian@totaltraining.com wrote: >>>> >>>> I thought it was a shame that Adobe never purchased SketchUp., even >>>> as a modeler for Photoshop and AE. Instead Google bought it, and then >>>> subsequently dumped it. >>>> >>>> It's a great modeler (for simple things anyway). >>>> >>>> B >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Teddy Gage" >>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" >>>> Sent: 3/10/2014 6:11:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI & C4D Sale at >>>> toolfarm >>>> >>>> >>>> > -tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their >>>> own, ya know? >>>> >>>> People said that is why AD originally bought SI - to keep it from >>>> Adobe. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Gary Reisman >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I almost forgot it existed! >>>>> Can't recall the last time I read about it being used in any of the >>>>> trade mags or online. >>>>> >>>>> But makes perfect sense considering Autodesk has so many other 3d >>>>> apps, and I'm sure they'll offer owners the opportunity to up/side-gr= ade to >>>>> Maya. >>>>> -tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own= , >>>>> ya know? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, rendernyc wrote: >>>>> >>>>> i dont think anyone who uses, develops for or has built there >>>>> pipeline around Soft is surprised. >>>>> disappointed im sure but the writing has been on the wall for years. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Teddy Gage >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/autodesk-will-discont= inue-softimage-software-685939 >>>>>> >>>>>> Great software, it will probably end up in Autodesk's basement >>>>>> somewhere, they have already stated they won't sell it off because i= t >>>>>> contains too many of their IPs or something. They just completed the= LEGO >>>>>> movie using SI. It has a pretty fantastic node scripting language. I= feel >>>>>> terrible for shops that built their whole pipelines on SI. Or plugin >>>>>> developers who wasted thousands. AD are pushing everyone to Max or M= aya >>>>>> instead. For an interesting perspective there is a thread on cgsocie= ty here >>>>>> >>>>>> http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=3D59&t=3D1160981 >>>>>> >>>>>> And probably not a coincidence, but a heads up if anyone was >>>>>> looking to upgrade, there is 10% off C4D upgrades at toolfarm this m= onth, >>>>>> with added discount for your C4D lite licenses that come with AE CC.= Not a >>>>>> shill, but it's good software, and definitely complements my Maya >>>>>> knowledge. People are saying they will jump ship to >>>>>> C4D, Houdini, Modo or even Blender instead of staying with Autodesk. >>>>>> -TG >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _____________________________ >>>>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>>>> teddygage dot com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> danny princz >>>>> >>>>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____________________________ >>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>> teddygage dot com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> danny princz >>> >>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>> >> >> > --047d7bd6ac065dae7f04f45aae3a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
did someone use macromind director here ?

:-)


2014-03-1= 1 20:57 GMT+01:00 Phil Williams <phil@firingzone.com>:
Spot on Byron, this is a go= od summary of the what's really happening with Softimage.

I think the negative impact is bigger than Autodesk expected. I would much = rather deal with a company like The Foundry or Maxon in the future.



On 11 March 2= 014 19:40, Byron Nash <byronnash@gmail.com> wrote:
Gary, Softimage was used to create the recent Lego = movie that has done very well in theaters. Also, all the=C2=A0finalists in = the recent British Animation Awards (tv commercials) did their work in Soft= image. Similarly, both silver and gold award winners in the 3d animation ca= tegory at this year=E2=80=99s British Television Advertising Craft awards w= ere Softimage companies. Softimage definitely had a larger presence in Euro= pe and especially Japan. Softimage scaled well and really shone in small to= mid-sized outfits since it was full featured out of the box. =C2=A0

It is truly a sad thing to see such a capable tool get swept= away. One in which many of us have invested decades to master. There is a = furor going on over on the Softimage list and many company owners are speak= ing up about it. I personally have lost what little respect I had for Autod= esk and am looking to move onto some other company's offering once I ha= ve to leave Softimage.



On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:15 PM, rendernyc = <rendernyc@gmai= l.com> wrote:
i missed where they sold it= as well. interesting. that seemed to have been done pretty quietly.
Im surprised they didnt keep it with the rising interest in 3d p= rinting


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM, adam m= ercado <adam@influxx.com> wrote:
Well there you go. Had no idea. Google never informed us, you'd think t= hey would let their user base know, especially SUPro users.=C2=A0

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That article did not mention the object library, 3DWarehouse or w= hatever it is called . Didn't Google own that too, was that part of the= package that got sold? That was half of what makes SU so useful.


Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Fullerton,= CA

Moving Images. For Business
714= =C2=B0928=C2=B09896

On Mar 11, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Evan Foti= s wrote:

Google dumped= SketchUP? Thats news to me. I use the free version of SU which I upda= ted just recently, and my wife - an interior designer - uses the pro v= ersion all the time. SU is going nowhere for a while for us.

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Productio= n
Fullerton, CA
=

Moving Imag= es. For Business
714=EF=BF=BD928=EF=BF=BD9896
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On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:15 PM, brian@totaltraining.c= om wrote:

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I thought it was a shame that Adobe never purchased Sketch= Up., even as a modeler for Photoshop and AE. Instead Googl= e bought it, and then subsequently dumped it.
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It's a great modeler (for simple thing= s anyway).
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------ Original Mes= sage ------
From: "Teddy Gage" <teddygage@gmail.com>
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To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= ;
Sent: 3/10/2014 6:11:23 PM
S= ubject: Re: [AE] Autodesk is killing off Softimage XSI &am= p; C4D Sale at toolfarm
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>=C2=A0-tho a bit of a sham= e that Adobe never acquired a 3d app of their own, y= a know?

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People said that is why = AD originally bought SI - to keep it from = Adobe.=C2=A0

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Gary Reisman=C2=A0<garyreisman@mac.com>=C2=A0wrot= e:
I almost = forgot it existed!
C= an't recall the last time I read about it = being used in any of the trade mags or online.=

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But makes perfect sense considering = Autodesk has so many other 3d apps, and = I'm sure they'll offer owners the = opportunity to up/side-grade to Maya.
-tho a bit of a shame that Adobe never = acquired a 3d app of their own, ya know?
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On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, = rendernyc <= rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
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i dont think anyone = who uses, develops for or has = built there pipeline around Soft = is surprised. =
disappointed im sure but the writi= ng has been on the wall for years.= =C2=A0
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On Mon, = Mar 10, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Teddy = Gage=C2=A0<teddygage@gmail.com>=C2=A0wrote:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/be= hind-screen/autodesk-will-discontinue-softimage-software-685939 =

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Great software, it = will probably end up in = Autodesk's basement = somewhere, they have = already stated they = won't sell it off becaus= e it contains too many of th= eir IPs or something. They j= ust completed the LEGO movie= using SI. It has a = pretty fantastic node = scripting language. I = feel terrible for shops = that built their whole = pipelines on SI. Or = plugin developers who = wasted thousands. AD are = pushing everyone to Max or = Maya instead. For an interes= ting perspective there is a = thread on cgsociety here

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And probably no= t a coincidence, but a heads= up if anyone was looking = to upgrade, there is 10% = off C4D upgrades at = toolfarm this month, = with added discount for = your C4D lite licenses = that come with AE CC. = Not a shill, but it's = good software, and = definitely complements my M= aya knowledge. People are sa= ying they will jump ship to= =C2=A0
C4D, Houdini, Modo or = even Blender instead of = staying with Autodesk.=C2=A0
-TG=C2=A0
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VFX = & Motion = Graphic Artist
teddygage dot = com
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danny pr= incz

= vimeo= .com/rendernyc
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teddygage dot com
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