Return-Path: Received: from mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de ([81.169.146.160] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5404794 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:39:00 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1394609984; l=28353; s=domk; d=mamoworld.com; h=In-Reply-To:To:References:Date:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type: From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=ITy/iqRvNT9LHe0M4B+1LWMtsDU=; b=FxXoDeZx4BtYljm+UgbBAhlTaSDroqjVPDoTbJshZK2iKI3LE5bhF2NL/RDOdqmJHPI g5Xmxh6SW6Jp77+NINGtByw0/vc/c/53JmQOnNPlhqguwEgYxWmpmrS9NSx3zBZVCoE0y vcLlG8+vWmw9DP0WIir8vvwdGGwbaHyNRCI= X-RZG-AUTH: :JWICemClevKDgu8HjcNJMjRl593UXLPRxATGwvl0czvlKPvWKaNvvwX2g2dTIj8= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from mathiasmac-2.fritz.box (p5DC65EC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.198.94.200]) by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 32.27 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id n06de0q2C7dipMm (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:39:44 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathias_M=F6hl?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_62B88C7E-EF9E-438D-A486-F1794E1F2CA3" Message-Id: <52E1C757-FA30-452C-B684-DB6AA53250A0@mamoworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: [AE] check plugin compatibility (best with scripting)? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:39:43 +0100 References: To: After List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) --Apple-Mail=_62B88C7E-EF9E-438D-A486-F1794E1F2CA3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Ok, thanks a lot for all the infos. Is Plexus fully backwards = compatible? Cheers, Mathias On 11 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Satya G Meka (Lists) = wrote: > Interesting, I didn=92t know about the shortcut. By default, plugins = are assumed to be compatible with version changes as they have the same = match name. I don=92t think it is possible to install different versions = of the same plugin. If v1 and v2 aren=92t compatible, then the developer = can use a different match name, effectively making it a different plugin = so that the older version and the newer version can be installed and = used simultaneously. >=20 > regards, > Satya. >=20 >=20 > On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Mathias M=F6hl wrote: >=20 >> One more question: >> I=92ve just discovered the=20 >> =93WriteVersionFileExtra=94 =3D =93(Ctrl+Alt+Shift+HELP)=94 >> trick to get the version numbers of all installed plugins.=20 >> = http://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2009/04/list-all-plugins-and-version-n= .html >>=20 >> probably a question for Todd Kopriva: >> Is this accessible via scripting somehow? >> Then I could combine the effect names I get from scripting with the = version numbers I get from WriteVersionFileExtra. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Mathias >>=20 >> On 11 Mar 2014, at 07:20, Mathias M=F6hl wrote: >>=20 >>> Thanks a lot for the quick help, Satya! >>>=20 >>> Do you mean the version number is not available via scripting or not = represented in the project at all? >>> Is it more or less the default that new versions of plugins are not = backwards compatible or does this happen rather rarely? >>> In case V1 and V2 of a plugin are not compatible but have the same = matchname, is it possible at all to install both versions in parallel on = the same machine? >>>=20 >>> Looking forward to meet you at NAB :-) >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>> Mathias >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 10 Mar 2014, at 19:42, Satya G Meka (Lists) = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hello Mathias, >>>>=20 >>>> That=92ll be tricky. The "Match Names" don=92t change with a new = version, so you can get them from project files. But, the version = numbers are not accessible from the project file. >>>>=20 >>>> regards, >>>> Satya. >>>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Mathias M=F6hl wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>=20 >>>>> I need to automatically check for AE projects whether all required = plugins are installed. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I can collect the match names of all effects used in the project = and compare them with the installed ones (available in app.effects). >>>>> But what about version numbers? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Is there any way to get the version number of the effects used in = the project (and also of the ones that are installed)? >>>>> Or does the matchname change whenever a new version of a plugin is = incompatible with an older one? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Mathias=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> mamoworld.com >>>>> simplify your cgi >>>>> Dr. Mathias M=F6hl >>>>> Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany >>>>> Phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61 >>>>> info@mamoworld.com >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> mamoworld.com >>> simplify your cgi >>> Dr. Mathias M=F6hl >>> Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany >>> Phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61 >>> info@mamoworld.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> mamoworld.com >> simplify your cgi >> Dr. Mathias M=F6hl >> Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany >> Phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61 >> info@mamoworld.com >>=20 >>=20 >=20 mamoworld.com simplify your cgi Dr. Mathias M=F6hl Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany Phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61 info@mamoworld.com --Apple-Mail=_62B88C7E-EF9E-438D-A486-F1794E1F2CA3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Ok, = thanks a lot for all the infos. Is Plexus fully backwards = compatible?

Cheers,
Mathias

On 11 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Satya G Meka (Lists) <lists@rowbyte.com> = wrote:

Interesting, I didn=92t know about the shortcut. By = default, plugins are assumed to be compatible with version changes as = they have the same match name. I don=92t think it is possible to install = different versions of the same plugin. If v1 and v2 aren=92t compatible, = then the developer can use a different match name, effectively making it = a different plugin so that the older version and the newer version can = be installed and used simultaneously. =

regards,
Satya.


On Tuesday, = March 11, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Mathias M=F6hl wrote:

One more question:
I=92ve= just discovered the 
=93WriteVersionFileExtra=94 =3D = =93(Ctrl+Alt+Shift+HELP)=94
trick to get the version numbers = of all installed plugins. 

probably a question = for Todd Kopriva:
Is this accessible via scripting = somehow?
Then I could combine the effect names I get from = scripting with the version numbers I get from = WriteVersionFileExtra.

Cheers,
Mathias<= /div>

On 11 Mar 2014, at 07:20, Mathias M=F6hl <info@mamoworld.com> = wrote:

Thanks = a lot for the quick help, Satya!

Do you mean the = version number is not available via scripting or not represented in the = project at all?
Is it more or less the default that new = versions of plugins are not backwards compatible or does this happen = rather rarely?
In case V1 and V2 of a plugin are not = compatible but have the same matchname, is it possible at all to install = both versions in parallel on the same = machine?

Looking forward to meet you at NAB = :-)

Cheers,
Mathias


On 10 Mar 2014, at 19:42, Satya G Meka (Lists) = <lists@rowbyte.com> = wrote:

Hello Mathias,

That=92ll be tricky. The "Match Names" don=92t change = with a new version, so you can get them from project files. But, the = version numbers are not accessible from the project file.

regards,
Satya.

On Monday, March 10, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Mathias = M=F6hl wrote:

Hi = everyone,

I need to automatically check for AE = projects whether all required plugins are = installed.

I can collect the match names of all = effects used in the project and compare them with the installed ones = (available in app.effects).
But what about version = numbers?

Is there any way to get the version = number of the effects used in the project (and also of the ones that are = installed)?
Or does the matchname change whenever a new = version of a plugin is incompatible with an older = one?

Cheers,
Mathias 
mamoworld.com
simplify your = cgi

Dr. Mathias M=F6hl
Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany
Phone = +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61
info@mamoworld.com

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mamoworld.com
simplify your = cgi

Dr. Mathias M=F6hl
Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany
Phone = +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61
info@mamoworld.com

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=
mamoworld.com
simplify your = cgi

Dr. Mathias M=F6hl
Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany
Phone = +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61
info@mamoworld.com

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mamoworld.com
simplify your = cgi

Dr. Mathias M=F6hl
Marlow 52 , 18551 = Sagard, Germany
Phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61
info@mamoworld.com

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