Return-Path: Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com ([17.158.161.2] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5406419 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:42:25 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.68] (99-152-153-100.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.153.100]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N2E0041F6VPFM50@nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:43:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-03-13_07:2014-03-13,2014-03-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=9 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1401130000 definitions=main-1403130119 From: Jim Curtis Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0421E6E4-4F3B-4387-8D0B-6A7207EFAC85" Message-id: <3601306F-36D6-4148-A184-E8AC3E1ABBFE@me.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: [AE] time for a system UG Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:43:01 -0500 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) --Apple-Mail=_0421E6E4-4F3B-4387-8D0B-6A7207EFAC85 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 My policy is to only upgrade when it's necessary=85 required for a new = feature or say compatibility with a video card driver, etc. or some = fantastic new feature in Ae or Pr. And don't upgrade to any Mac OS prior to x.x.3, 4 or 5. =20 10.8.5 is working great here, and as others have warned, 10.9.x isn't = without some problems (and one that was reported as a severe security = issue). On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:15 PM, rendernyc wrote: > i have a few machines on 10.8 and one on 10.9 and it has more issues = than the rest combined. > renders dont show up in the finder sometimes, many utilities and apps = tend to crash where they ran fine on 10.8 >=20 > id stick to 10.8 for now personally >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Dann Stubbs = wrote: > while i can=92t say it=92s my favorite, i just finally bit the bullet = too from 10.6.8 and upgraded to mavericks >=20 > so far 10.9.2 is working ok - i only lost a couple old apps that = needed carbon - one being golive=85 got my moneys worth in that one for = sure=85 and then a few random cheap or free type utility apps=85 it did = give a warning pop up that golive would not work, the little apps i = guess were not in the database to be notified about. >=20 > some of the stuff in mavericks i find annoying - just getting a big = consumery - kinda like windows is but not that bad yet=85 i dread the = day when apple goes full noob and introduces something like Microsoft = bob >=20 > overall i expected a lot more disruption but so far so good - been = about a week and a half with mavericks >=20 > i quit everything, rebooted then did do a full HD backup and then also = made sure my time machine was just backed up just before i did the = update - took a few hours to do - 1.5 hours to download the update and = then probably another 1.5 to install >=20 > after reboot was ok. just a couple preference settings, getting used = to the new mail pane on the left (did not want to fight it and use the = legacy way) just trying to adapt to the new ways so i don=92t get too = crotchety and old man sounding. >=20 > good luck on it, >=20 > dann > ___________________________________________________________________ >=20 > Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com > Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >=20 > http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm > ___________________________________________________________________ >=20 > =93You can ignore reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of = ignoring reality.=94 -Ayn Rand >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Rob Birnholz = wrote: >=20 >> Even though it's not broken, it appears the time has come for me to = upgrade my main workstation (MacPro 5.1) from good old OS X 10.7.5 = (lion). >>=20 >> Red Giant Universe will only run in 10.8 and later, plus Lion support = (and compatibility) will soon be dwindling/ending for a few of my main = go-to apps. >>=20 >> So the question is, do I finally move to Mountain Lion or bite the = bullet and go full bore into Mavericks. >>=20 >> I'm running 10.9.2 on my MacbookPro with no issues, but I don't do = much heavy lifting on that machine. >>=20 >> Suggestions? (please no "switch to windows" comments, thanks) >>=20 >>=20 >> Rob Birnholz >> ABSOLUTE MOTION GRAPHICS, Inc. >> -digital design and post- >> Longwood, Florida >> www.absolutemotiongraphics.com >>=20 >> I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message. >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > danny princz >=20 > vimeo.com/rendernyc --Apple-Mail=_0421E6E4-4F3B-4387-8D0B-6A7207EFAC85 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 My = policy is to only upgrade when it's necessary=85 required for a new = feature or say compatibility with a video card driver, etc. or some = fantastic new feature in Ae or Pr.

And don't upgrade = to any Mac OS prior to x.x.3, 4 or 5. =  

10.8.5 is working great here, and as = others have warned, 10.9.x isn't without some problems (and one that was = reported as a severe security = issue).



On Mar 13, = 2014, at 3:15 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> = wrote:

i have a few machines on 10.8 and one on = 10.9 and it has more issues than the rest combined.
renders dont = show up in the finder sometimes, many utilities and apps tend to crash = where they ran fine on 10.8

id stick to 10.8 for now personally


On Thu, Mar 13, = 2014 at 4:02 PM, Dann Stubbs <dann@darkskydigital.com> wrote:
while i can=92t say it=92s my favorite, i = just finally bit the bullet too from 10.6.8 and upgraded to = mavericks

so far 10.9.2 is working ok - i only lost a couple old = apps that needed carbon - one being golive=85 got my moneys worth in = that one for sure=85 and then a few random cheap or free type utility = apps=85 it did give a warning pop up that golive would not work, the = little apps i guess were not in the database to be notified about.

some of the stuff in mavericks i find annoying - = just getting a big consumery - kinda like windows is but not that bad = yet=85 i dread the day when apple goes full noob and introduces = something like Microsoft bob

overall i expected a lot more disruption but so far = so good - been about a week and a half with = mavericks

i quit everything, rebooted then did = do a full HD backup and then also made sure my time machine was just = backed up just before i did the update - took a few hours to do - 1.5 = hours to download the update and then probably another 1.5 to = install

after reboot was ok. just a couple preference = settings, getting used to the new mail pane on the left (did not want to = fight it and use the legacy way) just trying to adapt to the new ways so = i don=92t get too crotchety and old man sounding.

good luck on = it,

dann
= ___________________________________________________________________
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Dann Stubbs  -  dann@darkskydigital.com
Dark Sky Digital -  http://www.darkskydigital.com

http://www.RenderKing.com  Value Priced = C4D, VRAY Render Farm
= ___________________________________________________________________
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=93You can ignore = reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.=94 = -Ayn Rand



On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Rob Birnholz <absolutemotion@birnholz.com> = wrote:

Even though it's not broken, = it appears the time has come for me to upgrade my main workstation = (MacPro 5.1) from good old OS X 10.7.5 (lion).

Red Giant Universe will only run in 10.8 and later, plus Lion = support (and compatibility) will soon be dwindling/ending for a few of = my main go-to apps.

So the question is, do I finally move to = Mountain Lion or bite the bullet and go full bore into Mavericks.

I'm running 10.9.2 on my MacbookPro with no issues, but I don't do = much heavy lifting on that machine.

Suggestions? (please no = "switch to windows" comments, thanks)


Rob Birnholz
ABSOLUTE MOTION GRAPHICS, Inc.
-digital design and post-
Longwood, = Florida
www.absolutemotiongraphics.com

I'm out of = my mind, but feel free to leave a message.


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