Return-Path: Received: from [64.29.147.34] (HELO mail24c25-2209.carrierzone.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5407228 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:16:02 +0100 X-Authenticated-User: albion.speakeasy.net Received: from [192.168.1.109] (c-67-185-28-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.185.28.214]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail24c25-2209.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s2EHGk7N005534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:16:48 +0000 From: James Culbertson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CD928D96-E22D-49C2-9654-EE933ED64F31" Message-Id: <4A85746E-F153-44E4-93A8-660B1B47639C@speakeasy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: [AE] time for a system UG Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:16:52 -0700 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.1 cv=S9/gnucP c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=Y/MgaaCAW/y6DJCnCmasCA==:117 a=Y/MgaaCAW/y6DJCnCmasCA==:17 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=g0qM3YM6AAAA:8 a=Vh2S5YxkD60A:10 a=A8LQOh1NFgIA:10 a=eVbW6KzvAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=n_cyjgRKAAAA:8 a=0NtdC1r0AAAA:8 a=AhyUmIMvAAAA:8 a=zkjkLIJJAAAA:8 a=O_RjZzbmAAAA:8 a=op5w82AwwaSxWpwKSzEA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=Hiit177yz3gA:10 a=BLHXiS8OQLAA:10 a=EDS4UXD-4MkA:10 a=Ua83uR8HAe8A:10 a=MfAO1Wjfw6wmI0FP4AQA:9 a=PkS-gbYKhZa2GpNK:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.53233981.010C,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 --Apple-Mail=_CD928D96-E22D-49C2-9654-EE933ED64F31 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 6 cores and 32GB RAM (and went for the D700s). James On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:03 AM, D wrote: > James, how many cores did you go for?=20 >=20 > On Friday, 14 March 2014, Dann Stubbs wrote: > the one thing i heard about and was sure to do was to turn off the = =93nap=94 feature on performance intensive apps >=20 > basically it is a system level low cpu state in most modern compiled = apps >=20 > just GET INFO on the app and then there in the info box is a checkbox = that says =93prevent app nap=94 >=20 > that was the biggest thing i=92ve noticed in complaints about poor = performance and beach balls etc - but yes for sure take a look = BEFOREHAND at your daily CRITICAL apps that are must work ones - and = check the web sites for maverick compatible versions or updates before = jumping into it. >=20 > like there were immediate adobe updates to fix maverick issues - i = would think that most app vendors of programs would be pretty quick on = fixes for maverick since that is on all new and shipping macs. >=20 > dann > ___________________________________________________________________ >=20 > Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com > Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >=20 > http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm > ___________________________________________________________________ >=20 > =93You can ignore reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of = ignoring reality.=94 -Ayn Rand >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Carey Dissmore = wrote: >=20 >> Whenever I hear stories like that I always wonder if it=92s just some = issues on a specific machine (those can happen to anyone) or if it=92s = more broad-based. I don=92t know the answer, just asking the question. >>=20 >> I=92ve been running Mavericks on MBP Retina with all Adobe stuff = fine, but do keep an older mac pro back at 10.8.5 because it=92s got = legacy version software and plugins installed. Note: It is NOT a daily = driver.=20 >>=20 >> carey >>=20 >> On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Chris Zwar wrote: >>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rob Birnholz [mailto:absolutemotion@birnholz.com] >>> So the question is, do I finally move to Mountain Lion or bite the = bullet and go full bore into Mavericks. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Rob, >>>=20 >>> I'm working at a place with 2 FCP suites, one on Mavericks and one = on 10.8.5. The Mavericks one has severe problems with FCP and Red Cine. = In a general sense it is unstable to the point of being unusable. >>> As I'm not a FCP editor I can't describe the exact problems but = basically the system just beachballs a lot, especially when dragging = footage and folders around. >>>=20 >>> I don't know if it's just that one machine or if FCP in general is = flaky on Mavericks, but if you rely on FCP then I'd be pretty careful = and would not transition to it just yet. >>>=20 >>> -Chris >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_CD928D96-E22D-49C2-9654-EE933ED64F31 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
6 cores and 32GB RAM (and = went for the = D700s).

James


O= n Mar 14, 2014, at 3:03 AM, D <dow.hanson@gmail.com> = wrote:

James, how many cores did you go for? 

On = Friday, 14 March 2014, Dann Stubbs <dann@darkskydigital.com> = wrote:
the one thing i heard about and was = sure to do was to turn off the =93nap=94 feature on performance = intensive apps

basically it is a system level low cpu = state in most modern compiled apps

just GET INFO on the app and then there in the info = box is a checkbox that says =93prevent app = nap=94

that was the biggest thing i=92ve = noticed in complaints about poor performance and beach balls etc - but = yes for sure take a look BEFOREHAND at your daily CRITICAL apps that =  are must work ones - and check the web sites for maverick = compatible versions or updates before jumping into it.

like there were immediate adobe updates to fix = maverick issues - i would think that most app vendors of programs would = be pretty quick on fixes for maverick since that is on all new and = shipping macs.

dann
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Dann Stubbs  -  dann@darkskydigital.com
Dark Sky Digital -  http://www.darkskydigital.com

http://www.RenderKing.com  Value Priced = C4D, VRAY Render Farm
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=93You can ignore = reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.=94 = -Ayn Rand



On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Carey Dissmore <carey@imugonline.com> = wrote:

Whenever I hear stories like that I always wonder if it=92s just some = issues on a specific machine (those can happen to anyone) or if it=92s = more broad-based. I don=92t know the answer, just asking the = question.

I=92ve been running Mavericks on MBP Retina with all = Adobe stuff fine, but do keep an older mac pro back at 10.8.5 because = it=92s got legacy version software and plugins installed. Note: It is = NOT a daily driver.

carey

On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Birnholz [mailto:absolutemotion@birnholz.com]
So the = question is, do I finally move to Mountain Lion or bite the bullet and = go full bore into Mavericks.


Rob,

I'm working at a place with 2 FCP suites, one on = Mavericks and one on 10.8.5.  The Mavericks one has severe problems = with FCP and Red Cine.  In a general sense it is unstable to the = point of being unusable.
As I'm not a FCP editor I can't describe the exact problems but = basically the system just beachballs a lot, especially when dragging = footage and folders around.

I don't know if it's just that one = machine or if FCP in general is flaky on Mavericks, but if you rely on = FCP then I'd be pretty careful and would not transition to it just = yet.

-Chris



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