Return-Path: Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.161.0] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5413734 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:21:52 +0100 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MuIBzIsoLd2Dz13Ew9w+Rw)" Received: from [192.168.1.68] (99-152-153-100.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.153.100]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N2S00BXPTQ54G40@nk11p00mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:22:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Curtis Message-id: <20E3D615-9128-4561-80C0-62E5F31B0AFE@me.com> Subject: Re: [AE] OT: HELP! How much to charge IBM for footage? Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:22:53 -0500 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) x-icloud-spam-score: 34444444 f=me.com;e=me.com;is=no;ir=yes;pp=ham;spf=n/a;dkim=n/a;dmarc=n/a;wl=n/a;pwl=n/a;clxs=n/a;clxl=n/a X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHBEKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdoY3kRCkNOF0sbHhpiTk0dRRpyfhl4c wcYZhsSGBhZHREKWFwXGQQaBB0HTUsdEkhJHEwFGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHhofGxEKXlkXYXN DTXARCkxGF2JraxEKQ1oXExMEGx8YBBsfGQQbGhoRCkJGF2MYfGl4eFlIelsBEQpCRRdnehJTf BJwUx1uHhEKQk4XbHBgeUAdYlJpGmIRCkJMF2sdUhoFH0JDGEEcEQpCbBdlHHJHZ39PWmVgZhE KQkAXb0hiRVxbTHtNQEkRCkJYF2lhQ25nW155XkRyEQpwZxdlfF0bXkFBbUhCfxEKcGgXa0hEb E9kQmFcX1ARCnBoF3oBfUJZcmJdZ19aEQpwaBdpQkRrbGN8ehplaxEKcGgXaAVkbUtueUx9U2M RCnBoF2NTXGJMEx9LbFlEEQpwfxdgeUJHTgVaRRhTcxEKcF8XY2lsWBl/ZW1PUBwRCnB/F2l+a XxnbR5Se05AEQpwXxdgYGQFTWwbTGFSchEKcH8XY05AW0FuT2dmb2IRCnBfF2ZoARpDH0RFXkV 9EQpwbBd6X31jTEdzWGJwSxEKcEwXbmRJXB5hZxNIb28R X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-03-21_05:2014-03-21,2014-03-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1403210102 --Boundary_(ID_MuIBzIsoLd2Dz13Ew9w+Rw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I'd start by going to Getty, and see what they'd charge for similar = usage. On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: > My film for IMAX and giant screen =93In Saturn=92s Rings=94 just a got = a call from IBM=92s ad agency this morning =96 they want a few shots for = inclusion in commercials to run during the Masters. > =20 > I=92ve licensed stuff a couple of times before for one-time, limited, = onscreen bug use, but never for broadcast global commercial. I=92ve said = no, very painfully to PBS and BBC who wanted to buy it as royalty free = for 5 figures and up. > =20 > Not sure what I should charge for this. Details I know so far is they = want a few short shots non-exclusive for in perpetuity (which I=92m = inclined to say no to) although they will consider 1 and 5 year terms. > =20 > Any hard real world numbers people have seen would be appreciated. > =20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 > =20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > =20 > A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It = should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s = behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. > =96Stanley Kubrick > =20 --Boundary_(ID_MuIBzIsoLd2Dz13Ew9w+Rw) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I'd start by going to Getty, = and see what they'd charge for similar = usage.


On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:19 PM, = Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> = wrote:

My film for IMAX = and giant screen =93In Saturn=92s Rings=94 just a got a call from IBM=92s = ad agency this morning =96 they want a few shots for inclusion in = commercials to run during the Masters.
 
I=92ve = licensed stuff a couple of times before for one-time, limited, onscreen = bug use, but never for broadcast global commercial. I=92ve said no, very = painfully to PBS and BBC who wanted to buy it as royalty free for 5 = figures and up.
Not sure what I = should charge for this. Details I know so far is they want a few short = shots non-exclusive for in perpetuity (which I=92m inclined to say no = to) although they will consider 1 and 5 year terms.
 
Any = hard real world numbers people have seen would be = appreciated.
stephen van = vuuren