Return-Path: Received: from [207.46.163.188] (HELO na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5413877 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:55:18 +0100 Received: from CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.71.15) by CO1PR06MB267.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.71.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.898.11; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:56:16 +0000 Received: from CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.7.4]) by CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.7.4]) with mapi id 15.00.0898.005; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:56:15 +0000 From: Stephen van Vuuren To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] OT: HELP! How much to charge IBM for footage? Thread-Topic: [AE] OT: HELP! How much to charge IBM for footage? Thread-Index: AQHPRT/3nQ85890OsUGfu5DkLNryKprsJgow Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:56:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [24.163.5.74] x-forefront-prvs: 0157DEB61B x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019001)(428001)(377454003)(199002)(189002)(24454002)(47736001)(49866001)(47976001)(50986001)(74876001)(4396001)(74706001)(19300405004)(46102001)(74366001)(51856001)(76482001)(93136001)(80976001)(85306002)(53806001)(54356001)(90146001)(15202345003)(83322001)(16236675002)(74316001)(97186001)(15975445006)(81686001)(98676001)(81542001)(81816001)(19580405001)(81342001)(85852003)(19609705001)(19580395003)(97336001)(31966008)(93516002)(56816005)(83072002)(77982001)(77096001)(69226001)(76796001)(94316002)(2656002)(95666003)(59766001)(79102001)(80022001)(66066001)(87936001)(76576001)(74502001)(87266001)(56776001)(33646001)(54316002)(65816001)(47446002)(76786001)(86362001)(74662001)(92566001)(63696002)(20776003)(95416001)(165073001)(24736002);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:CO1PR06MB267;H:CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com;FPR:DE44D52D.AD3291E0.71DD77C2.DAC8397D.203A3;MLV:sfv;PTR:InfoNoRecords;A:1;MX:1;LANG:en; received-spf: None (: sv2studios.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_becc1ad51de44696839c7841622e34a1CO1PR06MB265namprd06pro_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sv2studios.com --_000_becc1ad51de44696839c7841622e34a1CO1PR06MB265namprd06pro_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hear your point Teddy but not sure if companies actually pay that. That's= why I'm trying to dig out - don't want to ask something way off base. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, = the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Teddy Gage Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:59 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] OT: HELP! How much to charge IBM for footage? It's IBM, they are a billion dollar company. There's a big difference betwe= en some stock footage shot for Getty and a project you have poured years of= your life into... don't sell yourself short. I'd ask for at least triple t= hat if not more. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Stephen van Vuuren > wrote: Jim, thanks - good idea. Seem stuff is roughly in $5K range for broadcast, = 1 year. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, = the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim Curtis Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 2:23 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] OT: HELP! How much to charge IBM for footage? I'd start by going to Getty, and see what they'd charge for similar usage. On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Stephen van Vuuren > wrote: My film for IMAX and giant screen "In Saturn's Rings" just a got a call fro= m IBM's ad agency this morning - they want a few shots for inclusion in com= mercials to run during the Masters. I've licensed stuff a couple of times before for one-time, limited, onscree= n bug use, but never for broadcast global commercial. I've said no, very pa= infully to PBS and BBC who wanted to buy it as royalty free for 5 figures a= nd up. Not sure what I should charge for this. Details I know so far is they want = a few short shots non-exclusive for in perpetuity (which I'm inclined to sa= y no to) although they will consider 1 and 5 year terms. Any hard real world numbers people have seen would be appreciated. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, = the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick -- _____________________________ VFX & Motion Graphic Artist teddygage dot com --_000_becc1ad51de44696839c7841622e34a1CO1PR06MB265namprd06pro_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I hear your point Teddy b= ut not sure if companies actually pay that. That’s why I’m tryi= ng to dig out – don’t want to ask something way off base.<= /o:p>

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stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

 

A film is – or s= hould be – more like music than like fiction. It should be a progress= ion of moods and feelings. The theme, what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.

–Stanley Kubrick=

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From: After = Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Teddy Gage
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:59 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] OT: HELP! How much to charge IBM for footage?=

 

It's IBM, they are a billion dollar company. There's= a big difference between some stock footage shot for Getty and a project y= ou have poured years of your life into... don't sell yourself short. I'd as= k for at least triple that if not more. 

 

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = <stephen@sv2= studios.com> wrote:

Jim, thanks – good idea. Seem stu= ff is roughly in $5K range for broadcast, 1 year.

 

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/=

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.co= m/

 

A film is – or should be ̵= 1; more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all= that comes later.

–Stanley Kubrick

 

From: After Effects Mail L= ist [mailto:AE= -List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim Curtis
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 2:23 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] OT: HELP! How much to charge IBM for footage?

 

I'd start by going to Getty, and see what they'd charge for simila= r usage.

 

 

On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com>= ; wrote:

 

My film for IMAX and giant screen “In Saturn= 217;s Rings” just a got a call from IBM’s ad agency this mornin= g – they want a few shots for inclusion in commercials to run during the Masters.

 

I’ve licensed stuff a couple of times before fo= r one-time, limited, onscreen bug use, but never for broadcast global commercial. I’ve said no, very painfully to PBS and BBC who wanted t= o buy it as royalty free for 5 figures and up.

 

Not sure what I should charge for this. Details I kno= w so far is they want a few short shots non-exclusive for in perpetuity (which I’m inclined to say no to) although they will c= onsider 1 and 5 year terms.

 

Any hard real world numbers people have seen would be= appreciated.

 

stephen van vuuren

 

 

A film is – or should be – more like m= usic than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes la= ter.

–Stanley Kubrick

 

 



 

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