From: Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com>
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Subject: RE: [AE] OT: HELP! How much to charge IBM for footage?
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:16:32 +0000
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Thanks Carey - those are good thoughts and kind of where I'm leaning in my =
own mind - so very helpful to get confirmation of it. I only give a coin to=
ss of going through anyway - what happened when BBC and PBS approached  a c=
ouple of years ago as well as a Discovery Channel last year is once it went=
 to the higher ups, they want basically an in-perpetuity stock footage lice=
nse which is not an option (well unless they are offering millions :)  so t=
hey both passed.

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From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of=
 Carey Dissmore
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [AE] OT: HELP! How much to charge IBM for footage?

Stephen did say it was non-exclusive. But under consideration were perpetua=
l, 1 year and 5 year terms.

Stephen, I'm not entirely certain of my thoughts, but based on what I know =
and the practical realities of negotiation, I'd be inclined to say no to pe=
rpetual, but not be afraid of 5 years (honestly they'll totally move on aft=
er a year or so anyway, so if a 5 year deal nets you an extra few bucks you=
 should do it).

So my gut tells me that after negotiations, you should hope to end up in th=
e high 4 figures, perhaps just tipping into 5 figure territory. Set your st=
arting price accordingly. Negotiations on price usually don't go back an fo=
rth a ton. Expect about two rounds of price haggling. If they are seriously=
 interested they'll settle quick. If not, they'll just drop the whole thing=
.

That's just my two cents, for whatever it is worth. Not much for inflation.

carey


On Mar 21, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Rob Birnholz <absolutemotion@birnholz.com> wro=
te:

> Also your material isn't just "stock footage". It's unique and you are gr=
anting them an exclusive license. That's worth a lot.
>=20
> Rob Birnholz
> Absolute Motion Graphics, Inc.=20
> Longwood, Florida
> www.absolutemotiongraphics.com
>=20
> (sent from a mobile device)
>=20
>> On Mar 21, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> There's a big difference between some stock footage shot for Getty and a=
 project you have poured years of your life into...
>=20
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