Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc2-s7.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.81] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5414743 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 22:40:35 +0100 Received: from COL127-W5 ([65.55.34.72]) by col0-omc2-s7.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 23 Mar 2014 14:41:41 -0700 X-TMN: [ifrQuFd9Dfea+hqC8pRkPTzpBZdVytj+] X-Originating-Email: [mack_dadd2@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Return-Path: mack_dadd2@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ab0ce797-73f2-47ea-b14b-ebc7cb59de6a_" From: Sean Kennedy To: AE List Subject: RE: [AE] Conversion to ProRes and CINEC Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 14:41:41 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2014 21:41:41.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADD26860:01CF46E0] --_ab0ce797-73f2-47ea-b14b-ebc7cb59de6a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also have a couple mac minis=2C but I don't have AE on them. On my main P= C workstation=2C I use a free program called Another GUI to make prores fil= es. It's really easy and totally free=2C and all on a PC. It doesn't even i= nstall anything. http://www.authorityfx.com/encoding-videos-in-prores-4444-on-windows/ Just another option. :) To: AE-List@media-motion.tv From: teddygage@gmail.com Date: Sun=2C 23 Mar 2014 14:00:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [AE] Conversion to ProRes and CINEC ah that was the wrong switch... this is the one=20 http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSafe-Gigabit-Ethernet-Desktop/dp/B0000BVYT= 3/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1395597607&sr=3D8-2&keywords=3Dnetgear+ether= net+switch =0A= =0A= On Sun=2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 1:55 PM=2C Teddy Gage wro= te: =0A= =0A= What Rik said=2C I'm pretty sure even a CS6 license will allow two installs= as long as they are not simultaneous. I actually use FCP & compressor to a= utomate the workflow with a Qmaster cluster=2C so I'm using all cores on my= macbook pro and the mac mini at once - although this really works best for= huge multi-clip encodes=2C as Qmaster is sort of finicky. =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= I have two PC workstations=2C a mac mini=2C a macbook pro=2C and a standalo= ne Synology NAS server with external backup=2C all hooked up to a 5 switch = auto-uplink netgear hub (this one http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-5-P= ort-Ethernet-Desktop/dp/B00002EQCW) at 1000 mbps which tops out around 115 = MB per second between all machines=2C which is usually disk-limited. For re= ally demanding stuff I have two 750 GB SSDs in RAID1 that get about 800 MB = per second read/write on my main workstation. =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= The mac mini can use bi-directional windows SMB file sharing and the NAS wi= ll read / write easily with mac or pc so it makes my studio platform agnost= ic. You don't even really need OSX server=2C 10.9 works just fine. There ar= e a few small things you have to set up right between systems but it's way = easier than it sounds. And everything gets archived to both the NAS and a b= are external drive every night - I use the drives like tape storage for old= projects=2C 1TB disks are pretty cheap these days. =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= On Sun=2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 1:43 PM=2C rik bogusz wrot= e: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= with the cc subscription=2C two installs is authorized On Mar 23=2C 2014=2C at 10:09 AM=2C "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" wrote: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= I guess the only problem with that is that I would have to have 2 licenses = for AE wouldn't I? =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= On Sun=2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 1:06 PM=2C rik bogusz wrot= e: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= I have a similar workflow=2C create/ render to 16bit .png sequence project = on a windows machine. import .png folder to after effects on a Mac mini=2C = (both machines on a gig Ethernet network) output to prores4444.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= On Mar 23=2C 2014=2C at 9:55 AM=2C "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" wrote: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Teddy=2C Thanks. So what is the workflow then for this? So=2C I get a mini mac (no= t sure what that is but will research) and then I presume you copy all your= files to a USB drive from PC=2C plug in to mini mac and then? What are yo= u using then for the conversion on the Mac?=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Thanks=2C Eric On Sun=2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 12:28 PM=2C Teddy Gage wr= ote: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= I skip prores exports from PC altogether because of those issues=2C and eit= her send DNxHD QTs direct or encode Prores from lossless files on my mac mi= ni / MBP. I'd highly recommend a used recent mac mini as a standalone encod= ing device / server=2C it works great and speeds up workflow=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= On Sun=2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 11:31 AM=2C Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Hello=2C I've been using this thing now for a year or so with sort of mixed reviews.= I sometimes get perfect conversions and then other times=2C it will add a= white frame at the end or just slap on a random 5 frames or so of black. = Has anyone had this problem?=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Is there an application out there that people have had better luck with? Thanks=2C Eric=0A= =0A= --=20 =0A= =0A= Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions=0A= =0A= Hidden in the Woods | VFX The Night Visitor | VFX443.206.1347 www.kirkproductions.com =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= kirkproductions@gmail.com=0A= IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/=0A= =0A= =0A= --=20 _____________________________=0A= =0A= VFX & Motion Graphic Artist =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= teddygage dot com=0A= =0A= --=20 Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsHidden in the Woods | VFX =0A= =0A= The Night Visitor | VFX=0A= =0A= 443.206.1347 www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= --=20 Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsHidden in the Woods | VFX The Night Visitor | VFX=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= 443.206.1347 www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= --=20 _____________________________VFX & Motion Graphic Artist =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= teddygage dot com=0A= =0A= --=20 _____________________________VFX & Motion Graphic Artist =0A= =0A= teddygage dot com=0A= = --_ab0ce797-73f2-47ea-b14b-ebc7cb59de6a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also have a couple mac minis= =2C but I don't have AE on them. On my main PC workstation=2C I use a free = program called Another GUI to make prores files. It's really easy and total= ly free=2C and all on a PC. It doesn't even install anything.

http://www.authorityfx.com/encoding-videos-i= n-prores-4444-on-windows/

Just another option. := )

To: AE-List@media-motion.tvFrom: teddygage@gmail.com
Date: Sun=2C 23 Mar 2014 14:00:39 -0400
Su= bject: Re: [AE] Conversion to ProRes and CINEC



On Sun=2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 1:55 PM=2C Teddy Gage &l= t=3Bteddygage@gmai= l.com>=3B wrote:
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What Rik said=2C I'm pretty sure even a CS6 license will allow two in= stalls as long as they are not simultaneous. I actually use FCP &=3B com= pressor to automate the workflow with a Qmaster cluster=2C so I'm using all= cores on my macbook pro and the mac mini at once - although this really wo= rks best for huge multi-clip encodes=2C as Qmaster is sort of finicky. = =3B
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I have two PC workstations=2C a mac mini=2C a macbook pro=2C= and a standalone Synology NAS server with external backup=2C all hooked up= to a 5 switch auto-uplink netgear hub (this one =3Bhttp://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-5-Port-Ethernet-Desktop/d= p/B00002EQCW) at 1000 mbps which tops out around 115 MB per second betw= een all machines=2C which is usually disk-limited. For really demanding stu= ff I have two 750 GB SSDs in RAID1 that get about 800 MB per second read/wr= ite on my main workstation.
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The mac mini can use bi-directional windows SMB f= ile sharing and the NAS will read / write easily with mac or pc so it makes= my studio platform agnostic. You don't even really need OSX server=2C 10.9= works just fine. There are a few small things you have to set up right bet= ween systems but it's way easier than it sounds. And everything gets archiv= ed to both the NAS and a bare external drive every night - I use the drives= like tape storage for old projects=2C 1TB disks are pretty cheap these day= s. =3B
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On Sun=2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 1:4= 3 PM=2C rik bogusz <=3Brik.gaijin@mac.com>=3B wrote:
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with the cc subscription=2C two= installs is authorized

On Mar 23=2C 2014=2C at 10:= 09 AM=2C "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <=3Bkirkproductions@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
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I guess the only problem with t= hat is that I would have to have 2 licenses for AE wouldn't I?




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=0A= =0A= On Sun=2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 1:06 PM=2C rik bogusz <=3B<= a href=3D"mailto:rik.gaijin@mac.com" target=3D"_blank">rik.gaijin@mac.com>=3B wrote:
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I have a similar workflow=2C create/ render to 16bit= .png sequence project on a windows machine. import .png folder to after ef= fects on a Mac mini=2C (both machines on a gig Ethernet network) output to = prores4444.
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On Mar 23=2C 2014=2C at 9:55 AM=2C "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <=3Bkirkproductions@gm= ail.com>=3B wrote:

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Thanks.  =3BSo what is the workflow then fo= r this?  =3BSo=2C I get a mini mac (not sure what that is but will rese= arch) and then I presume you copy all your files to a USB drive from PC=2C = plug in to mini mac and then?  =3BWhat are you using then for the conve= rsion on the Mac?
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Thanks=2C
Eric


On Sun=2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 12:28= PM=2C Teddy Gage <=3Bteddygage@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
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I skip prores exports from PC altoget= her because of those issues=2C and either send DNxHD QTs direct or encode P= rores from lossless files on my mac mini / MBP. I'd highly recommend a used= recent mac mini as a standalone encoding device / server=2C it works great= and speeds up workflow
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On Sun= =2C Mar 23=2C 2014 at 11:31 AM=2C Mr. Eric D. Kirk <=3B= kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
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Hello=2C

I've been= using this thing now for a year or so with sort of mixed reviews.  =3B= I sometimes get perfect conversions and then other times=2C it will add a w= hite frame at the end or just slap on a random 5 frames or so of black. &nb= sp=3BHas anyone had this problem?
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Is there an application out there that people have had = better luck with?

Thanks=2C
Eric
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