Return-Path: Received: from mail-ee0-f45.google.com ([74.125.83.45] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5417389 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:53:27 +0100 Received: by mail-ee0-f45.google.com with SMTP id d17so2713805eek.4 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:54:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=r2hty7X2k7wkCcTngd/3VNa4i2Oe31xzYWNhp84gRec=; b=YID60CWVBb9qtpZfRZK1vet5iXWeR4RrdMxZ/jysB26XIp3rW/hrtfMGCZtuiZmRzk s5LSnVI38V6+yn3lhELQTQvYaXHi4BGd+hIHK/oL9BL7M20cGvB8map7wGXN2jKRgeB5 twgzpgIWvFYZbb8P0r38cxuua19yfyLKWLdYttSaufvtA0GOYNbGnYTKfgLjioW+1Bh5 UYbgHRAADB9kxktnJVt4XOv83QcjN5KVF4VN5qJKZdG6uMRdS+5rr5jg2H08OD8480uq VOH6PJ9jrtV0C3fo4Qpe69RJnExOsyRrCZCp6aDlI/Gy8CeFHUd/KvasBTWfq70Pq6zw e3lA== X-Received: by 10.14.246.196 with SMTP id q44mr1132328eer.45.1395917681129; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.5] (cust-233-240.on4.ontelecoms.gr. [92.118.233.240]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p8sm3555385eef.26.2014.03.27.03.54.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <533403B0.8090901@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Evan Fotis Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:55:44 +0200 From: Evan Fotis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080914 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.17 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] soundkeys like effect suggestion References: In-Reply-To: X-TagToolbar-Keys: D20140327125544459 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030502050706080904030905" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030502050706080904030905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Teddy, much appreciated!!! will give it a try with AE native fx, using swf elements synced to audio amplitude which renders instantly, cause some preliminary tests with form although impressive are slow. Looking up the linear expression(x, x, x, x)too On 26-Mar-14 18:39, Teddy Gage wrote: > Form is only as render-intensive as you make it, there are tons of > ways to make it render in near realtime if you limit the numbers of > particles or threads and are creative with the effect.� > > Not only that, but any effect in AE can be made sound-reactive. > > 1. import audio, select audio track > 2. Animation -> keyframe assistant -> convert audio to keyframes > 3. You now have an hour-long track of keyframes, take any effect, > enable expressions, and pickwhip the effect parameters to the audio > keyframe track > 4. One place to start would be fractal noise parameters to animate, or > size / position keyframes on shape layers, or shape layer repeater effects > 5. look up the linear(x, x, x, x) expression - this will conform, say > -360 to 360 degree rotational values into a 1-100 number scale that > the audio keyframes work with > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Evan Fotis > wrote: > > thanks Bruce, > �music is playback, not live. > Most AE plugs that I'm aware of, and especially Form I'm afraid is > not an option as from my experience quite render heavy for this > kind of length. > Any other suggestions? > > > > On 26-Mar-14 16:59, Bruce Tovsky wrote: >> is the music live or recorded. if live, find a max/jitter artist >> or a vj - doing it live is so easy and the quality can be very >> good. if it's recorded, there are many options in ae - trapcode >> particularly has some apps that do interesting visualizations - >> form comes to mind - but the render times are not what i'd call >> "fast", even on a tricked out machine. >> b >> >> >> On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Evan Fotis > > wrote: >> >>> Hello all, there is this minimal budget project where some sort >>> of video backround is needed to match the rhythm of music playing. >>> Any ideas on anything plug in, perhaps generative video, vj app >>> etc software that could do this and *render fast*? >>> It does not need to be live, changing images on the air. >>> But at least something that could be produced� with minimal >>> render times as duration is about over 1hour. >>> thanks in advance >> >> bruce tovsky >> >> www.skeletonhome.com >> >> >> "Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane." >> >> Philip K. Dick >> >> > > > > > -- > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com --------------030502050706080904030905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Teddy, much appreciated!!!
will give it a try with AE native fx, using swf elements synced to audio amplitude which renders instantly, cause some preliminary tests with form although impressive are slow.
Looking up the linear expression(x, x, x, x)too 

On 26-Mar-14 18:39, Teddy Gage wrote:
Form is only as render-intensive as you make it, there are tons of ways to make it render in near realtime if you limit the numbers of particles or threads and are creative with the effect.�

Not only that, but any effect in AE can be made sound-reactive.

1. import audio, select audio track
2. Animation -> keyframe assistant -> convert audio to keyframes
3. You now have an hour-long track of keyframes, take any effect, enable expressions, and pickwhip the effect parameters to the audio keyframe track
4. One place to start would be fractal noise parameters to animate, or size / position keyframes on shape layers, or shape layer repeater effects
5. look up the linear(x, x, x, x) expression - this will conform, say -360 to 360 degree rotational values into a 1-100 number scale that the audio keyframes work with


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Evan Fotis <evan.fotis@gmail.com> wrote:
thanks Bruce,
�music is playback, not live.
Most AE plugs that I'm aware of, and especially Form I'm afraid is not an option as from my experience quite render heavy for this kind of length.
Any other suggestions?



On 26-Mar-14 16:59, Bruce Tovsky wrote:
is the music live or recorded. if live, find a max/jitter artist or a vj - doing it live is so easy and the quality can be very good. if it's recorded, there are many options in ae - trapcode particularly has some apps that do interesting visualizations - form comes to mind - but the render times are not what i'd call "fast", even on a tricked out machine.
b


On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Evan Fotis <evan.fotis@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all, there is this minimal budget project where some sort of video backround is needed to match the rhythm of music playing.
Any ideas on anything plug in, perhaps generative video, vj app etc software that could do this and render fast?
It does not need to be live, changing images on the air.
But at least something that could be produced� with minimal render times as duration is about over 1hour.
thanks in advance

bruce tovsky

www.skeletonhome.com


"Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane."

Philip K. Dick






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