Return-Path: Received: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com ([209.85.160.47] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5422698 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:05:45 +0200 Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id up15so11220980pbc.20 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 02:07:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=C1FGpaMov/DL+mZm3ia7dHwGgy5I6dEk5cSp/Is/ns8=; b=LrFJGwprGFVqNHU3Dd4bQdjQ+76zUL63T3VurF1UHgTchTHXxGJvemOjqKqRB66BrA b7kONXv2ci2/qGw/cm6aED93/TyeeoqOBPKCwd/2aS/g3pLZSyh+R5cITGTR/DoVNhVm l6HCYsTnGchTbyPnab1JbPOWKsTHgNeU5h2vHz6UfMmhx6OePwrNPwCQO2Zv/bNNGutN +f+Cs7fmjd45oHw8rbzC6qPWIrdPlmUaUomKoCHVUANsr1lwEHnA0EJ0gWJKjDzfG33w CfcBPyMlNnTBgqn5uX970kKYQKVqe8k5oBsWuU/eRqciw89boz7eSyX1AOEos8DAqDdW DYEg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQndNpZwaTTNX1cKhVqB0lns9hNf1BQm5eEqoDyDWEhuZTKp4YEC4g/Wr9cUPpPHFbuYXOur X-Received: by 10.68.237.38 with SMTP id uz6mr36519320pbc.72.1396429629039; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 02:07:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.134.4 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2014 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Robert Kjettrup Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 11:06:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] First question on list (TimeRemapping pre comps) To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b33d6cefe419104f60b9b77 --047d7b33d6cefe419104f60b9b77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi i think your problem is that the animated psd is using the native AE PSR keyframes, and AE will automaticly interpolate the animation of those, and that is a very nice feature, but it sound like the other pre-comp you have is a sequence of images, that will ofcourse not be smoothly reinterpolated to a new slower animation, making the 2 comp not to sync up anymore. One solution could be to bake the keyframes of the psd, as you have tried, but after that convert all the keyframes to Hold keyframes so that when you timeremap the master comp the animating psd will jump at the same timeinterval as the image sequence. This can still fail though if you dont timestretch to a slow/speedup with an integer value (x2, x3, x4, or /2, /3, /4) as AE can put keyframes on "subframes" (frame numbers like 5,333) and with an image sequnce AE cant do that but will just take the nearest frame. This can cause some of the frames from the 2 comps to some times be 1 frame out of sync. So keep the timestrech value to 50%, 100%, 200%, 300% etc. and you should be good to go... with an jumpy animation though :-D Maybe i misunderstood you question, then im sorry for the lengthy response :-) Robert 2014-04-02 9:17 GMT+02:00 Tor Martin Norvik : > Hi, > > I have followed this list for several years now, what an extraordinary > great resource for After Effects. > > I have something that I am wondering about regarding timeremapping a pre > comp where you have layers with PSR animation. > > If my pre comp is 12 frames long and I want to extend it to be 24, I just > add the necessary time remapping keys. So far so good! > But this offsets some of my animation in the pre comp? > > In my pre comp there are two layers, one is another pre comp with 12 > images sequenced after each other and the other layer is a .psd which is > animated and superimposed on the pre comp with sequenced images. > > So: > PreComp A > - Child preComp > - Animated .psd > > If I timeremap PreComp A, the animated .psd does not follow the layers in > Child preComp. > > > I find it a bit hard to describe it in a more elegant way, but please > chime in if you have experienced something similar and found a nice > solution. > I have tried =ABbaking=BB all keys on the animated .psd, thinking that co= uld > help. But the only solution so far is to render the pre comp A out to a > sequenced .png and TimeRemap it. > > > Regards, > Tor Martin > > > > > > > > TILN=C6RMET LIK AS > pb 1127 Sentrum, 0104 Oslo, Norway > Office: Akersveien 25 > Org.nr.: 990 687 536 > www.tilnaermetlik.no > tormartin@tilnaermetlik.no > (+47) 913 51 290 > twitter: norvik > > > > --047d7b33d6cefe419104f60b9b77 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi

i think your problem is that the ani= mated psd is using the native AE PSR keyframes, and AE will automaticly int= erpolate the animation of those, and that is a very nice feature, but it so= und like the other pre-comp you have is a sequence of images, that will ofc= ourse not be smoothly reinterpolated to a new slower animation, making the = 2 comp not to sync up anymore.

One solution could be to bake the keyframes of the psd,= as you have tried, but after that convert all the keyframes to Hold keyfra= mes so that when you timeremap the master comp the animating psd will jump = at the same timeinterval as the image sequence.

This can still fail though if you dont timestretch to a= slow/speedup with an integer value (x2, x3, x4, or /2, /3, /4) as AE can p= ut keyframes on "subframes" (frame numbers like 5,333) and with a= n image sequnce AE cant do that but will just take the nearest frame. This = can cause some of the frames from the 2 comps to some times be 1 frame out = of sync.
So keep the timestrech value to 50%, 100%, 200%, 300% etc. and you sho= uld be good to go... with an jumpy animation though :-D


Maybe i misunderstood you question, then im sorry for = the lengthy response :-)

Robert



2014-04-0= 2 9:17 GMT+02:00 Tor Martin Norvik <tormartin@tilnaermetlik.no>:
Hi,=A0
I have followed this list for several years now, what an = extraordinary great resource for After Effects.

I have something that I am wondering about regarding ti= meremapping a pre comp where you have layers with PSR animation.
=
If my pre comp is 12 frames long and I want to extend it to = be 24, I just add the necessary time remapping keys. So far so good!
But this offsets some of my animation in the pre comp?

<= /div>
In my pre comp there are two layers, one is another pre comp with= 12 images sequenced after each other and the other layer is a .psd which i= s animated and superimposed on the pre comp with sequenced images.

So:
PreComp A
- Child preComp
-=A0Animated .psd

If I timerem= ap PreComp A, the animated .psd does not follow the layers in Child preComp= .


I find it a bit hard to describe it in a= more elegant way, but please chime in if you have experienced something si= milar and found a nice solution.=A0
I have tried =ABbaking=BB all= keys on the animated .psd, thinking that could help. But the only solution= so far is to render the pre comp A out to a sequenced .png and TimeRemap i= t.


Regards,=A0
Tor Martin

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