Return-Path: Received: from mail-yh0-f47.google.com ([209.85.213.47] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5429380 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 17:23:30 +0200 Received: by mail-yh0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 29so2476002yhl.6 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 08:25:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kFbdLyUl6ixsgFDA4paUMHoLpEDahOi2ljtBDBJd7PY=; b=gWRzN1YB4ZZp4S1Djtj9+l7buX9nNuOdYnkbHz1CBkANerRn4FczEsTGGp9JBtC7vF /a+D5MKJM8afFQPNQs8tWVm635WSrls3ya0dFVgSKf7XbdGYVfg+lXVxEFrA3lYKt+1I jLGnAUgnG4cla3zMzVn+1cAAPOmgJUvofN+ojx2weHYOIwKQCQAzlalsGa2O7BB922KR vsVde/5gz/g4jc+/q9ys1hYWYHPoT4Hdr0YjoLxlrKpFvDprk+WXvRxvKueoU8beEtD9 +oDqU8xPPg14CPp6TmoAAgA1YN1mzsFUnTeiienGv+dkWAvG1ViBT4a1yDAhBIFycdNi QivA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.1.161 with SMTP id 21mr14893233yhd.79.1397057108982; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.76.134 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:25:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Time for a new workstation (PC) - what do I need? From: Teddy Gage To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122ee3eb640c704f69db40d --089e0122ee3eb640c704f69db40d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, didnt know you were in sweden... I can imagine it would be a lot more if you didnt have access to a wholesale pc parts retailer like newegg or tigerdirect. Or at least, shipping costs would offset the difference. Id suggest looking on ebay, you may find a deal on a prebuilt system or parts. Im not sure what the swedish equivalent of newegg would be, but you guys have a good economy and import a lot of the electronics, so stuff is a lot more expensive. (my wife to be is swedish. We are getting married on midsummer!) You could probably compromise on the liquid cooling, a bit less ram at 1600 mhz, the quad instead of hex cpu, and a single ssd for OS / cache. The ram especially can get pricey once you go over 32 gb of the fastest stuff. The secret is speed is less important than quantity, from my tests. As for the gpu, its a tradeoff. The 580 has great cuda performance for the ae raytrace engine, and some gpu accelerated effects, however the 780 has much better opengl performance, which can be just as useful. That would dictate 3d viewport and performance in cinema 4d, maya or other full 3d packages. Or especially gaming. The 780 also supports more monitors, I believe. On Tuesday, April 8, 2014, Simon Bj=F6rk wrote: > Thanks for you suggestions Teddy. Seems like that would make a great > machine. After a quick look it seems that it would be way higher than 150= 0 > though, but I'll have another look. > > Regarding the Gtx580 vs the 780 is there a big difference between the two > regarding performance? I can't seem to find a 580 here in Sweden. > > Best regards, > Simon > > > 2014-04-08 17:00 GMT+02:00 Teddy Gage > >: > >> $1500 should be plenty for a great machine, especially if you already >> have monitors. Heres what id recommend >> >> Either an intel i7 4930k six core or a 4770k quad for cpu >> Corsair closed loop water cooling h100 or better (cheap and easy to >> install) >> Asus motherboard for easy overclock >> Gtx 580 3gb edition (better cuda performance than 780, and cheap) >> 32-64 gb ram - i use corsair vengeance 1800 MHz >> 1 250 gb ssd for os >> 2x 500 or 750 gb ssds in raid 0 for current projects >> 1 4 tb hdd for archive / storage >> >> If you want it built for you I have used ironsidecomputers.com in the >> past, they do a great job without chargin too much over wholesale parts = cost >> >> Feel free to shoot me any questions >> -TG >> >> >> On Tuesday, April 8, 2014, Simon Bj=F6rk > >> wrote: >> >>> So, it's time for me to get a new workstation (PC) for my home office. >>> Unfortunately I don't know what specs I need these days, and I would re= ally >>> appreciate some advice for the following: >>> >>> - CPU/Motherboard - any particular models? >>> - Graphics card >>> - RAM - How much should I get (as much as possible I guess, but what >>> would you recommend)? >>> >>> My budget is somewhere around 1.500 USD, but it might need to get a bit >>> higher? I'm thinking it's cheaper to build it myself, but I might be wr= ong >>> about that. >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >> >> >> -- >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com >> >> > --=20 _____________________________ VFX & Motion Graphic Artist teddygage dot com --089e0122ee3eb640c704f69db40d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, didnt know you were in sweden... I can imagine it would be a lot more i= f you didnt=A0have access to a wholesale pc parts retailer like newegg or t= igerdirect. Or at least, shipping costs would offset the difference. Id sug= gest looking on ebay,=A0you may find a deal on a prebuilt system or parts. = Im not sure what the swedish equivalent of newegg would be, but you guys ha= ve a good economy and import a lot of the=A0electronics,=A0so stuff is a lo= t more expensive. (my wife to be is swedish. We are getting married on mids= ummer!)

You could probably compromise on the liquid cooling, a bit l= ess ram at 1600 mhz, the quad instead of hex cpu, and a single ssd for OS /= cache. The ram especially can get pricey once you go over 32 gb of the fas= test stuff. The secret is speed is less important than quantity, from my te= sts.

As for the gpu, its a tradeoff. The 580 has great cuda = performance for the ae raytrace engine, and some gpu accelerated effects, h= owever the 780 has much better opengl performance, which can be just as use= ful. That would dictate 3d viewport and performance in cinema 4d, maya or o= ther full 3d packages. Or especially gaming. The 780 also supports more mon= itors, I believe.

On Tuesday, April 8, 2014, Simon Bj=F6rk <bjork.simon@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for you suggestions Teddy. Seems like that woul= d make a great machine. After a quick look it seems that it would be way hi= gher than 1500 though, but I'll have another look.

Regarding the Gtx580 vs the 780 is there a big difference betw= een the two regarding performance? I can't seem to find a 580 here in S= weden.

Best regards,
Simon


2014-04-08 17:00 GMT+02:00 Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com>:
$1500 should be plenty for a great machine, = especially if you already have monitors. Heres what id recommend

Either an intel i7=A04930k six core or a 4770k quad for cpu
= Corsair closed loop water cooling h100 or better=A0(cheap and easy to insta= ll)
Asus motherboard for easy overclock
Gtx 580 3gb edition (bet= ter cuda performance than 780, and cheap)
32-64 gb ram - i use co= rsair vengeance 1800 MHz
1 250 gb=A0ssd for os
2x 500 o= r 750 gb ssds in raid 0 for current projects
1 4 tb hdd for archive / storage

If you want = it built for you I have used ironsidecomputers.com in the past, they do a great job wit= hout chargin too much over wholesale parts cost

Feel free to shoot me any questions
-TG
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On Tuesday, April 8, 2014, Simon Bj=F6rk <bjork.simon@gmail.com> wrote:
So, it's time for me to get a new workstation (PC) for= my home office. Unfortunately I don't know what specs I need these day= s, and I would really appreciate some advice for the following:

- CPU/Motherboard - any particular models?
- Graphics card
- RAM - How much should I get (as much as possible I guess, but wh= at would you recommend)?

My budget is somewhere ar= ound 1.500 USD, but it might need to get a bit higher? I'm thinking it&= #39;s cheaper to build it myself, but I might be wrong about that.

Thanks for your help.
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