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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_Bj=F6rk?= To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c34e8eda1c2c04f69eb950 --001a11c34e8eda1c2c04f69eb950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the insight Teddy, I'll definitely look into your suggestions. And congrats on the marriage :)! Best regards, Simon 2014-04-09 17:25 GMT+02:00 Teddy Gage : > Ah, didnt know you were in sweden... I can imagine it would be a lot more > if you didnt have access to a wholesale pc parts retailer like newegg or > tigerdirect. Or at least, shipping costs would offset the difference. Id > suggest looking on ebay, you may find a deal on a prebuilt system or part= s. > Im not sure what the swedish equivalent of newegg would be, but you guys > have a good economy and import a lot of the electronics, so stuff is a lo= t > more expensive. (my wife to be is swedish. We are getting married on > midsummer!) > > You could probably compromise on the liquid cooling, a bit less ram at > 1600 mhz, the quad instead of hex cpu, and a single ssd for OS / cache. T= he > ram especially can get pricey once you go over 32 gb of the fastest stuff= . > The secret is speed is less important than quantity, from my tests. > > As for the gpu, its a tradeoff. The 580 has great cuda performance for th= e > ae raytrace engine, and some gpu accelerated effects, however the 780 has > much better opengl performance, which can be just as useful. That would > dictate 3d viewport and performance in cinema 4d, maya or other full 3d > packages. Or especially gaming. The 780 also supports more monitors, I > believe. > > > On Tuesday, April 8, 2014, Simon Bj=F6rk wrote: > >> Thanks for you suggestions Teddy. Seems like that would make a great >> machine. After a quick look it seems that it would be way higher than 15= 00 >> though, but I'll have another look. >> >> Regarding the Gtx580 vs the 780 is there a big difference between the tw= o >> regarding performance? I can't seem to find a 580 here in Sweden. >> >> Best regards, >> Simon >> >> >> 2014-04-08 17:00 GMT+02:00 Teddy Gage : >> >>> $1500 should be plenty for a great machine, especially if you already >>> have monitors. Heres what id recommend >>> >>> Either an intel i7 4930k six core or a 4770k quad for cpu >>> Corsair closed loop water cooling h100 or better (cheap and easy to >>> install) >>> Asus motherboard for easy overclock >>> Gtx 580 3gb edition (better cuda performance than 780, and cheap) >>> 32-64 gb ram - i use corsair vengeance 1800 MHz >>> 1 250 gb ssd for os >>> 2x 500 or 750 gb ssds in raid 0 for current projects >>> 1 4 tb hdd for archive / storage >>> >>> If you want it built for you I have used ironsidecomputers.com in the >>> past, they do a great job without chargin too much over wholesale parts= cost >>> >>> Feel free to shoot me any questions >>> -TG >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 8, 2014, Simon Bj=F6rk wrote: >>> >>>> So, it's time for me to get a new workstation (PC) for my home office. >>>> Unfortunately I don't know what specs I need these days, and I would r= eally >>>> appreciate some advice for the following: >>>> >>>> - CPU/Motherboard - any particular models? >>>> - Graphics card >>>> - RAM - How much should I get (as much as possible I guess, but what >>>> would you recommend)? >>>> >>>> My budget is somewhere around 1.500 USD, but it might need to get a bi= t >>>> higher? I'm thinking it's cheaper to build it myself, but I might be w= rong >>>> about that. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________ >>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>> teddygage dot com >>> >>> >> > > -- > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com > > --001a11c34e8eda1c2c04f69eb950 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the insight Teddy, I'll definitely look int= o your suggestions. And congrats on the marriage :)!

Bes= t regards,
Simon


2014-04-09 17:25 GMT+02:00 Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com>:
Ah, didnt know you were in sweden... I can imagine it would be a lot more i= f you didnt=A0have access to a wholesale pc parts retailer like newegg or t= igerdirect. Or at least, shipping costs would offset the difference. Id sug= gest looking on ebay,=A0you may find a deal on a prebuilt system or parts. = Im not sure what the swedish equivalent of newegg would be, but you guys ha= ve a good economy and import a lot of the=A0electronics,=A0so stuff is a lo= t more expensive. (my wife to be is swedish. We are getting married on mids= ummer!)

You could probably compromise on the liquid cooling, a bit l= ess ram at 1600 mhz, the quad instead of hex cpu, and a single ssd for OS /= cache. The ram especially can get pricey once you go over 32 gb of the fas= test stuff. The secret is speed is less important than quantity, from my te= sts.

As for the gpu, its a tradeoff. The 580 has great cuda = performance for the ae raytrace engine, and some gpu accelerated effects, h= owever the 780 has much better opengl performance, which can be just as use= ful. That would dictate 3d viewport and performance in cinema 4d, maya or o= ther full 3d packages. Or especially gaming. The 780 also supports more mon= itors, I believe.


On Tuesday, April 8, 2014, Simon Bj=F6rk <bjork.simon@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Thanks for you suggestions Teddy. Seems like that woul= d make a great machine. After a quick look it seems that it would be way hi= gher than 1500 though, but I'll have another look.

Regarding the Gtx580 vs the 780 is there a big difference betw= een the two regarding performance? I can't seem to find a 580 here in S= weden.

Best regards,
Simon


2014-04-08 17:00 GMT+02:00 Teddy Gage <teddygag= e@gmail.com>:
$1500 should be plenty for a great machine, = especially if you already have monitors. Heres what id recommend

Either an intel i7=A04930k six core or a 4770k quad for cpu
= Corsair closed loop water cooling h100 or better=A0(cheap and easy to insta= ll)
Asus motherboard for easy overclock
Gtx 580 3gb edition (bet= ter cuda performance than 780, and cheap)
32-64 gb ram - i use co= rsair vengeance 1800 MHz
1 250 gb=A0ssd for os
2x 500 o= r 750 gb ssds in raid 0 for current projects
1 4 tb hdd for archive / storage

If you want = it built for you I have used ironsidecomputers.com in the past, they do a great job wit= hout chargin too much over wholesale parts cost

Feel free to shoot me any questions
-TG
<= div>

On Tuesday, April 8, 2014, Simon Bj=F6rk <bjork.simon@gma= il.com> wrote:
So, it's time for me to get a new workstation (PC) for= my home office. Unfortunately I don't know what specs I need these day= s, and I would really appreciate some advice for the following:

- CPU/Motherboard - any particular models?
- Graphics card
- RAM - How much should I get (as much as possible I guess, but wh= at would you recommend)?

My budget is somewhere ar= ound 1.500 USD, but it might need to get a bit higher? I'm thinking it&= #39;s cheaper to build it myself, but I might be wrong about that.

Thanks for your help.
<= /div>


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