Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5450404 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:35:26 +0200 Received: from mbp-17.netgear.com (50-50-54-2.waus.wi.frontiernet.net [50.50.54.2]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0McV8y-1WL22F21YG-00HxQM; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:35:24 -0400 From: Steve Oakley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D67DDA5F-EF53-47FC-A4BD-160FD85D2367" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Kinda [OT] - Java Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:35:22 -0500 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:SuGmD8xtI88DO/ZhgXJBuYaueEFt7BaTw9v4dt6Q++9 c6yY32VaGR9L+Vyu+0WRnzQ+IRClskh4eEaVFpYuEJ0gqGObp0 P/pHYh1PUt/FmvpPAZTNVb8tyO2HeKiuRee6901NLX0xy/hhrO kMOo8deRtNah0L8+LzyVD6pVQGDGdABVfGWmeuDsXN0PNiULDK ODJm9hrogmATEFA9vMetU+LE2mm9AlqUylf4flKNDr57lPb50D nh7gGj8cBhDV58WlLEU5tQzpfua8q3+dquYbE3IL24iwon33aM sq2whgf97TE684AtvAjR7nx63sa+gOK0EBF9asvpH9Y8Qou1uA Yxoj0js3S2++OJLYKMwvHjfczJrHKcyCbboDYB5zZLmt02b68u f515YNGmnMXvw== --Apple-Mail=_D67DDA5F-EF53-47FC-A4BD-160FD85D2367 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 open office some firmware updaters and odd hardware utilties Avid MC prior to a couple versions back Steve Oakley steveo@practicali.com DP =95 Sound =95 Colorist =95 Editor=20 NY/LA/WI/ Where ever you fly me On Apr 22, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > It seems that the main things that depend(ed) on Java are... > - anything that depended on Flex > - the installers for CS6 (and earlier) software > =20 > So, it seems that you can probably do without Java on systems using = current Adobe software, unless you're using Flex or Flex-based = applications. > =20 > =20 > From: Todd Kopriva=20 > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:18 PM > To: 'After Effects Mail List'; 'brian@totaltraining.com' > Subject: RE: [AE] Kinda [OT] - Java > =20 > I'll see what I can find out. I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know = off the top of my head what in our suite of applications depends on = Java. > =20 > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of brian@totaltraining.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:58 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: [AE] Kinda [OT] - Java > =20 > Sorry for the OT, but this does relate to Adobe, sort of, and this is = a great list to ask. > =20 > Every few weeks, I get asked to update Java, especially on my Windows = machine, and I always do--carefully, since I don't want to also install = the deplorable Ask.comToolbar. Today, for the first time in a while, I = wondered "why"? > =20 > A few years ago, I recall that the Creative Suite still used Java for = some important things, so we needed to keep it. Is this still true? I = don't really think I need Java for much on the web. > =20 > Since Java is often a point of security weakness, can I simply live = without it? > =20 > I look forward to your thoughts, > =20 > Brian --Apple-Mail=_D67DDA5F-EF53-47FC-A4BD-160FD85D2367 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 open = office
some firmware updaters and odd hardware = utilties
Avid MC prior to a couple versions = back

Steve Oakley

= DP =95 Sound =95 Colorist =95 Editor 
NY/LA/WI/ Where = ever you fly me

On Apr 22, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Todd Kopriva <kopriva@adobe.com> = wrote:

It seems that the main things that depend(ed) on Java = are...
- anything that depended on = Flex
- the installers for CS6 (and earlier) = software
 
So, it seems that you can probably do without Java on = systems using current Adobe software, unless you're using Flex or = Flex-based applications.
 
 
From: Todd Kopriva 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 = 1:18 PM
To: 'After Effects Mail List'; = 'brian@totaltraining.com'
Subject: RE: [AE] Kinda [OT] - = Java
 
I'll see what I can find out. I'm embarrassed to say = that I don't know off the top of my head what in our suite of = applications depends on Java.
 
 
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of brian@totaltraining.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 = 12:58 PM
To: After Effects Mail = List
Subject: [AE] Kinda [OT] - = Java
 
Sorry for the OT, but this = does relate to Adobe, sort of, and this is a great list to = ask.
 
Every few weeks, I get asked to update Java, especially on = my Windows machine, and I always do--carefully, since I don't want to = also install the deplorable Ask.comToolbar. = Today, for the first time in a while, I wondered = "why"?
 
A = few years ago, I recall that the Creative Suite still used Java for some = important things, so we needed to keep it. Is this still true? I don't = really think I need Java for much on the = web.
 
Since Java is often a point of security weakness, can I = simply live without it?
 
I = look forward to your thoughts,
 
Brian
=

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