Return-Path: Received: from dub0-omc2-s13.dub0.hotmail.com ([157.55.1.152] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5452263 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 15:38:29 +0200 Received: from DUB128-W65 ([157.55.1.137]) by dub0-omc2-s13.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 24 Apr 2014 06:38:29 -0700 X-TMN: [cPRUeYCeUpJ15ijO8pCn5Z7aWsSXGL0S] X-Originating-Email: [marc_lawrence123@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Return-Path: marc_lawrence123@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_581c2196-c3a9-4c62-9521-4408a82bedfc_" From: marc lawrence To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] Frame rate for digital file Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:38:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2014 13:38:29.0788 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A5775C0:01CF5FC2] --_581c2196-c3a9-4c62-9521-4408a82bedfc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great thanks Chris!M To: AE-List@media-motion.tv From: chris@chriszwar.com Date: Thu=2C 24 Apr 2014 23:20:04 +1000 Subject: Re: [AE] Frame rate for digital file I'm going to sound a bit pedantic=2C but there is no PAL or NTSC any more. = They were analogue transmission standards and they're history. Once you'r= e in the digital world there's just resolution=2C frame rate=2C and either = progressive or interlaced. Even interlacing seems to be on the way out. If you have a TV that is new enough to play a digital file from a USB stick= or other device then it will be able to play any common frame rate and res= olution. =20 Digital files already come in a range of resolutions=2C most commonly 1280 = x 720 and 1920 x 1080. But there are many others - especially if you start= looking at downloaded or ripped movies that were originally letterboxed. = And frame rates - you'll find 23.976=2C 24=2C 25=2C 29.97=2C 30 and more. = A modern TV can handle all of these different resolutions and frame rates. I don't think a Sony or a Samsung TV will have any problems with a .mov=2C = but you might find some obscure TVs that prefer a mp4 rather than a .mov. = But basically - if you have a TV that can play files off a stick then it wi= ll be able to handle 1920 x 1080 @ 25 fps. If you have a master file you're compressing for delivery then it isn't too= hard to make a range of different files to avoid compatibility problems. = It's not hard to deliver an MP4 and a MOV=2C for example. And if you're co= mpressing on a Mac then Apple's built-in defaults for apple TV and iTunes d= evices are worth trying too. -Chris On 24/04/2014=2C at 10:48 PM=2C marc lawrence wrote:Esteemed AE professionals=2C I'm rendering an HD 1920x1080 25fps AE sequence. The client intends to play= the digital file from a dongle directly into a TV. Do I need to ensure I h= ave both NTSC and PAL frame rate versions if they are taking it to the US (= I'm UK based) or will the 25fps suffice? I'm also rendering with QT using H264=2C if anyone knows of a better format= to render to for this particular purpose I would appreciate the feedback. Many thanks for any help given folks=2C Marc = --_581c2196-c3a9-4c62-9521-4408a82bedfc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great thanks Chris!
M

To: AE-List@media-motion.tv
From: chris@ch= riszwar.com
Date: Thu=2C 24 Apr 2014 23:20:04 +1000
Subject: Re: [AE]= Frame rate for digital file

I'm going to sound a bit pedantic=2C bu= t there is no PAL or NTSC any more.  =3BThey were analogue transmission= standards and they're history.  =3BOnce you're in the digital world th= ere's just resolution=2C frame rate=2C and either progressive or interlaced= .  =3BEven interlacing seems to be on the way out.

I= f you have a TV that is new enough to play a digital file from a USB stick = or other device then it will be able to play any common frame rate and reso= lution.  =3B

Digital files already come in a r= ange of resolutions=2C most commonly 1280 x 720 and 1920 x 1080.  =3BBu= t there are many others - especially if you start looking at downloaded or = ripped movies that were originally letterboxed.  =3BAnd frame rates - y= ou'll find 23.976=2C 24=2C 25=2C 29.97=2C 30 and more.  =3BA modern TV = can handle all of these different resolutions and frame rates.
I don't think a Sony or a Samsung TV will have any problems wi= th a .mov=2C but you might find some obscure TVs that prefer a mp4 rather t= han a .mov.  =3BBut basically - if you have a TV that can play files of= f a stick then it will be able to handle 1920 x 1080 @ 25 fps.
If you have a master file you're compressing for delivery then= it isn't too hard to make a range of different files to avoid compatibilit= y problems.  =3BIt's not hard to deliver an MP4 and a MOV=2C for exampl= e.  =3BAnd if you're compressing on a Mac then Apple's built-in default= s for apple TV and iTunes devices are worth trying too.

-Chris


On 24/04/201= 4=2C at 10:48 PM=2C marc lawrence <=3Bmarc_lawrence123@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:

Esteemed AE professionals=2C

I'm rendering an HD 1920= x1080 25fps AE sequence. The client intends to play the digital file from a= dongle directly into a TV. =3B
Do I need to ensure I have bo= th NTSC and PAL frame rate versions if they are taking it to the US (I'm UK= based) or will the 25fps suffice?

I'm also render= ing with QT using H264=2C if anyone knows of a better format to render to f= or this particular purpose I would appreciate the feedback.

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Many thanks for any help given folks=2C

= Marc

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