Return-Path: Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com ([74.125.82.181] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5461067 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 02 May 2014 13:50:19 +0200 Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id q58so4291208wes.26 for ; Fri, 02 May 2014 04:50:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=8DqLpMTKdD6IU3Un9pXt5nhXCgb/WGbsBddycAGkl0A=; b=h5DWpyvjHF0je7ehUe/9Oz0cC/rryPbZgm69No2jN6QI6+zB1MYizVlSMUel4gg9jy Qp9WrGwehMF3wb9vpI+y9y+z/SZblwTQW9IGbIq8v129lpmDcgI+Xu4UrHT4SRGNCr2q T4GWvFNYSXWDRBRBV6vJx1H2jBD/i9kaad3BOw3xqn6LCvxb0mMiYocSP2G0qgUAbyZl KtgnbKDGw8jyYIcYnSmsb8h4Baa7fMXyrjy4YozIipXLLfqX7V9nQOUzAw0Utj/dyCZ4 MX64rQgsC4eZ/qh8K41pFhiDmCfyw2pwtwPYk4VfTcpeXL5x+kkXQmF/ZJFH8oUWVmGe OCmg== X-Received: by 10.180.206.36 with SMTP id ll4mr2530103wic.57.1399031418890; Fri, 02 May 2014 04:50:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.202.133 with HTTP; Fri, 2 May 2014 04:49:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Lucas Maciel Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 08:49:58 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] First question on list (TimeRemapping pre comps) To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c25c6ac0b0b104f86962e2 --001a11c25c6ac0b0b104f86962e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glad to see, someone like me; this list is definnily a great resource! But I=E1=B8=BF kind of shy to start aswer topics, specially because i don't kno= w anything to answer, only questions and more questions of things that i can't google! Never know how to interact as a noob and also cuz my english is very very bad : / How about the expression that Micke Teeling said so? DId work? Regards! On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Micke Teeling wrot= e: > You could also apply a posterizeTime expression to the time remap: > > posterizeTime(12.5); > value; > > Where 12.5 in this case would be half the comps frame rate and only updat= e > the frame count every second frame. > Try it, might sometimes be more elegant than baking animation and using > hold keyframes. > > > Best > Micke Teeling > > > > *www.flowcine.com * > *Mail: micke@flowcine.com * > *Phone: +46 70 333 92 11 <%2B46%2070%20333%2092%2011>* > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Tor Martin Norvik < > tormartin@tilnaermetlik.no> wrote: > >> I think you hit the nail Robert, I had a feeling that the interpolation >> of animated frames vs sequenced images could give some different result >> regarding to TimeRemapping. >> But you was able to spell it out :) >> >> Yes, proxies is also a nice solution. But they should be =C2=ABpermanent= =C2=BB >> proxies. If AE change from proxies to the =C2=ABreal=C2=BB comp at rende= r time, the >> problem would still occur. >> >> Changing keys to hold frames does indeed do the trick! >> >> Thanks! >> >> Tor M >> >> >> 2. apr. 2014 kl. 11:35 skrev Py Fave : >> >> > or use proxies >> > it' simpler >> > >> > >> > 2014-04-02 11:06 GMT+02:00 Robert Kjettrup : >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> i think your problem is that the animated psd is using the native AE >> PSR >> >> keyframes, and AE will automaticly interpolate the animation of those= , >> and >> >> that is a very nice feature, but it sound like the other pre-comp you >> have >> >> is a sequence of images, that will ofcourse not be smoothly >> reinterpolated >> >> to a new slower animation, making the 2 comp not to sync up anymore. >> >> >> >> One solution could be to bake the keyframes of the psd, as you have >> tried, >> >> but after that convert all the keyframes to Hold keyframes so that >> when you >> >> timeremap the master comp the animating psd will jump at the same >> >> timeinterval as the image sequence. >> >> >> >> This can still fail though if you dont timestretch to a slow/speedup >> with an >> >> integer value (x2, x3, x4, or /2, /3, /4) as AE can put keyframes on >> >> "subframes" (frame numbers like 5,333) and with an image sequnce AE >> cant do >> >> that but will just take the nearest frame. This can cause some of the >> frames >> >> from the 2 comps to some times be 1 frame out of sync. >> >> So keep the timestrech value to 50%, 100%, 200%, 300% etc. and you >> should be >> >> good to go... with an jumpy animation though :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe i misunderstood you question, then im sorry for the lengthy >> response >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-04-02 9:17 GMT+02:00 Tor Martin Norvik < >> tormartin@tilnaermetlik.no>: >> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> I have followed this list for several years now, what an extraordina= ry >> >>> great resource for After Effects. >> >>> >> >>> I have something that I am wondering about regarding timeremapping a >> pre >> >>> comp where you have layers with PSR animation. >> >>> >> >>> If my pre comp is 12 frames long and I want to extend it to be 24, I >> just >> >>> add the necessary time remapping keys. So far so good! >> >>> But this offsets some of my animation in the pre comp? >> >>> >> >>> In my pre comp there are two layers, one is another pre comp with 12 >> >>> images sequenced after each other and the other layer is a .psd whic= h >> is >> >>> animated and superimposed on the pre comp with sequenced images. >> >>> >> >>> So: >> >>> PreComp A >> >>> - Child preComp >> >>> - Animated .psd >> >>> >> >>> If I timeremap PreComp A, the animated .psd does not follow the >> layers in >> >>> Child preComp. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I find it a bit hard to describe it in a more elegant way, but pleas= e >> >>> chime in if you have experienced something similar and found a nice >> >>> solution. >> >>> I have tried =C2=ABbaking=C2=BB all keys on the animated .psd, think= ing that >> could >> >>> help. But the only solution so far is to render the pre comp A out t= o >> a >> >>> sequenced .png and TimeRemap it. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Tor Martin >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> TILN=C3=86RMET LIK AS >> >>> pb 1127 Sentrum, 0104 Oslo, Norway >> >>> Office: Akersveien 25 >> >>> Org.nr.: 990 687 536 >> >>> www.tilnaermetlik.no >> >>> tormartin@tilnaermetlik.no >> >>> (+47) 913 51 290 >> >>> twitter: norvik >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > +---End of message---+ >> > To unsubscribe send any message to >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > > --=20 *-----------* *Lucas Maciel*, [image: LinkedIn] [image: Flickr] [image: YouTube] [image: Skype] lucasmpm +55 27 88194985 --001a11c25c6ac0b0b104f86962e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Glad to see, someone like me; this list is definnily a gre= at resource! But I=E1=B8=BF kind of shy to start aswer topics, specially be= cause i don't know anything to answer, only questions and more question= s of things that i can't google! Never know how to interact as a noob a= nd also cuz my english is very very bad : /=C2=A0

How about the expression that Micke Teeling said so? DId wor= k?

Regards!
=

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Micke Te= eling <micke.teeling@gmail.com> wrote:
You could also apply a post= erizeTime expression to the time remap:

posterizeTime(12.5);
value;

Where 12.5 in this case would be ha= lf the comps frame rate and only update the frame count every second frame.=
Try it, might sometimes be more elegant than baking animation and using= hold keyframes.


Best
Micke Teeling



www.flowcin= e.com=C2=A0
Mail:=C2=A0micke@flowcine.com
Phone:=C2=A0+46 70 333 92 11


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Tor Martin Norvik <tormartin@tilnaermetlik.no> wrote:
I think you hit the nail Robert, I had a feeling that the = interpolation of animated frames vs sequenced images could give some differ= ent result regarding to TimeRemapping.
But you was able to spell it out :)

Yes, proxies is also a nice solution. But they should be =C2=ABpermanent=C2= =BB proxies. If AE change from proxies to the =C2=ABreal=C2=BB comp at rend= er time, the problem would still occur.

Changing keys to hold frames does indeed do the trick!

Thanks!

Tor M


2. apr. 2014 kl. 11:35 skrev Py Fave <pyfave@gmail.com>:

> or use proxies
> it' simpler
>
>
> 2014-04-02 11:06 GMT+02:00 Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk>:
>> Hi
>>
>> i think your problem is that the animated psd is using the native = AE PSR
>> keyframes, and AE will automaticly interpolate the animation of th= ose, and
>> that is a very nice feature, but it sound like the other pre-comp = you have
>> is a sequence of images, that will ofcourse not be smoothly reinte= rpolated
>> to a new slower animation, making the 2 comp not to sync up anymor= e.
>>
>> One solution could be to bake the keyframes of the psd, as you hav= e tried,
>> but after that convert all the keyframes to Hold keyframes so that= when you
>> timeremap the master comp the animating psd will jump at the same<= br> >> timeinterval as the image sequence.
>>
>> This can still fail though if you dont timestretch to a slow/speed= up with an
>> integer value (x2, x3, x4, or /2, /3, /4) as AE can put keyframes = on
>> "subframes" (frame numbers like 5,333) and with an image= sequnce AE cant do
>> that but will just take the nearest frame. This can cause some of = the frames
>> from the 2 comps to some times be 1 frame out of sync.
>> So keep the timestrech value to 50%, 100%, 200%, 300% etc. and you= should be
>> good to go... with an jumpy animation though :-D
>>
>>
>> Maybe i misunderstood you question, then im sorry for the lengthy = response
>> :-)
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-02 9:17 GMT+02:00 Tor Martin Norvik <tormartin@tilnaermetlik.no>:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have followed this list for several years now, what an extra= ordinary
>>> great resource for After Effects.
>>>
>>> I have something that I am wondering about regarding timeremap= ping a pre
>>> comp where you have layers with PSR animation.
>>>
>>> If my pre comp is 12 frames long and I want to extend it to be= 24, I just
>>> add the necessary time remapping keys. So far so good!
>>> But this offsets some of my animation in the pre comp?
>>>
>>> In my pre comp there are two layers, one is another pre comp w= ith 12
>>> images sequenced after each other and the other layer is a .ps= d which is
>>> animated and superimposed on the pre comp with sequenced image= s.
>>>
>>> So:
>>> PreComp A
>>> - Child preComp
>>> - Animated .psd
>>>
>>> If I timeremap PreComp A, the animated .psd does not follow th= e layers in
>>> Child preComp.
>>>
>>>
>>> I find it a bit hard to describe it in a more elegant way, but= please
>>> chime in if you have experienced something similar and found a= nice
>>> solution.
>>> I have tried =C2=ABbaking=C2=BB all keys on the animated .psd,= thinking that could
>>> help. But the only solution so far is to render the pre comp A= out to a
>>> sequenced .png and TimeRemap it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tor Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TILN=C3=86RMET LIK AS
>>> pb 1127 Sentrum, 0104 Oslo, Norway
>>> Office: Akersveien 25
>>> Org.nr.: 990 687 536
>>> www.= tilnaermetlik.no
>>> tormartin@tilnaermetlik.no
>>> (+47) 913 51 290
>>> twitter: norvik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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