Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5463515 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 05 May 2014 22:37:16 +0200 Received: from [10.1.1.101] (75-135-165-0.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com [75.135.165.0]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MIMlD-1Whgso0Ne3-003iZl; Mon, 05 May 2014 16:37:14 -0400 From: Steve Oakley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5CAE1C54-EE62-4810-8282-64E6C12DD2E7" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Private training questions Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:37:12 -0500 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:reW2gwjm4Ixq4BE0Kl7gXn0CuPbHrddF9WQ7QisVN7O cR1BEd28anlTiFAh3xkPAqR+H+cMjoqSheF4zR6TzxpwnmacQF Dysq6EyPiuqXW0fiXJ5udPBk0YIJv0gr8vpFgSssT6jqNpO0TN BcLp7dUYpjPiq+KyJsti7Dr8wgX8SzCoD7d9m+eUocwzv7WMNX c7+s7vENXaVdC+zTbxfoafrmnpEOJYH9gtnXMSN9F39NPwXizr RNJ5TEi+IU2GcKPeGlrp9f9LqFQQyrcQfYDoAjFKk1XSQBdtNi Tf7Nc3/7ZrKy+Sr9UOuKth0ZpG4ATricGPqvORT2ugyNxcKbJg K5yRw8GjGsYeFkiB+Mb9dk+mqKVW1wkyZzDr4Ow3KDRbi/4IJp mXUUaHn6ZgCrQ== --Apple-Mail=_5CAE1C54-EE62-4810-8282-64E6C12DD2E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 classes never made much money most of the time. what did make money was = one on one or groups of 2-4 people private training. I made about 50% of = my income from doing that for several years, circa 99-03 or so. well = before there was a flood of internet content that ranges from very good = to really bad. the internet killed a lot of that... or to the point of = where instead of being booked for 2-3 days, you get booked for an = afternoon. Steve Oakley 920 544 2230c steveoakley.net=20 DP =95 Sound =95 Colorist =95 Editor=20 NY/LA/WI/ Where ever you fly me On May 5, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Rick Gerard wrote: > I have been using AE for more than 20 years (from version 1) and = started producing tutorials for Creative Cow in 1996. I have taught = small groups of 10 or less in classroom situations in 3 day intensive = sessions on various techniques. I also have given lectures and demos to = audiences up to 500 participants. Occasionally I have been brought in to = various production studios and corporate video production facilities to = provide one on one mentoring to help them with specific projects or to = institute a better production workflow.=20 >=20 > Subjects have ranged from getting started to advanced keying and = compositing, to camera tracking and background replacement and = everything in between. The fees depend on the size of the audience, the = subject matter covered, and the materials provided to the students. = Occasionally teaching AE and production techniques has given me a little = supplemental income, but the real money made in training only happens = when you have some really good credentials and some corporate backing. = Take for example, Vincent Laforet's Directing Motion Tour. See the = trailer here: >=20 > https://vimeo.com/90867151 >=20 > $295 per person, 30 to 60 participants per city / 32 cities Plus DVD = sales and other materials and sponsorships. There=92s good money to be = made giving lectures and demos if you have the credentials and = reputation to go with it.=20 >=20 > When you are just starting out you will be lucky to find much work = that pays much more than your expenses getting to the venue. The key to = making a living, or supplementing your living with training in any field = is to be enough of an expert that your classes are in demand. Just = knowing how do do something and having a decent reel on YouTube isn=92t = going to do much.=20 --Apple-Mail=_5CAE1C54-EE62-4810-8282-64E6C12DD2E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 classes never made much money most of the time. what = did make money was one on one or groups of 2-4 people private training. = I made about 50% of my income from doing that for several years, circa = 99-03 or so. well before there was a flood of internet content that = ranges from very good to really bad. the internet killed a lot of = that... or to the point of where instead of being booked for 2-3 days, = you get booked for an afternoon.

Steve Oakley

920 544 = 2230c
DP =95= Sound =95 Colorist =95 Editor 
NY/LA/WI/ Where ever you = fly me

On May 5, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Rick Gerard <ae@mstrg.com> wrote:

I have = been using AE for more than 20 years (from version 1) and started = producing tutorials for Creative Cow in 1996. I have taught small groups = of 10 or less in classroom situations in 3 day intensive sessions on = various techniques. I also have given lectures and demos to audiences up = to 500 participants. Occasionally I have been brought in to various = production studios and corporate video production facilities to provide = one on one mentoring to help them with specific projects or to institute = a better production workflow.

Subjects have ranged from getting = started to advanced keying and compositing, to camera tracking and = background replacement and everything in between. The fees depend on the = size of the audience, the subject matter covered, and the materials = provided to the students.  Occasionally teaching AE and production = techniques has given me a little supplemental income, but the real money = made in training only happens when you have some really good credentials = and some corporate backing. Take for example, Vincent Laforet's = Directing Motion Tour. See the trailer here:

https://vimeo.com/90867151

= $295 per person, 30 to 60 participants per city / 32 cities Plus DVD = sales and other materials and sponsorships. There=92s good money to be = made giving lectures and demos if you have the credentials and = reputation to go with it.

When you are just starting out you = will be lucky to find much work that pays much more than your expenses = getting to the venue. The key to making a living, or supplementing your = living with training in any field is to be enough of an expert that your = classes are in demand. Just knowing how do do something and having a = decent reel on YouTube isn=92t going to do much. =

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