Return-Path: Received: from homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5473525 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 15 May 2014 02:48:03 +0200 Received: from homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B65251C063 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 17:48:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=influxx.com; h= mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from :subject:date:to; s=influxx.com; bh=Q/SN+gV1vB5qttvjWOwFik5CO78= ; b=be5Lg9bvFx9uxp3y2sR7U8WyFuRlzdfI3MPpDlSdHde2Lpi18NpIToCaifOH KTjSWxoxqDUatLcwnsi+PihWqjlpk6HiLR7NjjGoNwp99wuA5dESIAT5bvs2Gg/J WHd1sjwg29d6W/GPuanWr/a1Uf/Y2DA7mIQcrEx+ag1NV+M= Received: from [192.168.0.12] (cpe-98-148-138-81.socal.res.rr.com [98.148.138.81]) (Authenticated sender: adam@influxx.com) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 82F0651C062 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 17:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-900885201 Message-Id: <8317D4A4-25E8-4898-91C5-186304088F88@influxx.com> From: adam mercado Subject: Re: [AE] Conveyor belt in Newton Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 17:48:00 -0700 To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) --Apple-Mail-3-900885201 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey thanks Rachel. That is REALLY cool. The product, the launch video =20= and the nifty blueprint animations you did. Love it. Exactly what I =20 need to do, but with lots lore objects. When you say married the the =20 keyframes in the master comp, could you elaborate? I am going to send this to my wife who is an interior designer. Think =20= she will find it useful and interesting. Thanks for sharing Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA Moving Images. For Business 714=B0928=B09896 http://www.influxx.com http://www.twitter.com/influxx http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx On May 14, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Rachel Max wrote: > Hey - I just did something similar using Newton: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNNM-zGV7Tg4 > > It=92s around 0:40 but the whole video is worth a watch. (April fools =20= > thing) > > I couldn=92t figure out how to animate 3 separate objects at =20 > different points in time and had only a few hours - no time to read =20= > manuals or ask questions so I might have done this the wrong way, =20 > but basically I animated each of the 3 chairs individually and then =20= > married the keyframes in a main comp. > > The result wasn=92t perfect (time) but was certainly better than =20 > trying to hand-keyframe. > > Cheers, > Rachel > > > > > On May 14, 2014, at 3:12 PM, adam mercado wrote: > >> Excellent stuff Teddy. Just watched the quick start video and the =20 >> Kinekatics setting looks great. Animated the boxes to the end of =20 >> the belt and then let Newton take over. >> >> I'm sure i'll bug you about something or other. Cheers !!! >> >> >> Adam Mercado >> Influxx Media Production >> Fullerton, CA >> >> Moving Images. For Business >> 714=B0928=B09896 >> http://www.influxx.com >> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 14, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >> >>> yes, definitely. But maybe try it with the demo first before you =20 >>> purchase. But it is extremely intuitive (despite a few small =20 >>> quirks). An hour's worth of tuts and maybe 20 minutes of setup =20 >>> and this would be done. Not to mention a tax write off. And a =20 >>> crazy fun sandbox toy... >>> >>> As for the robot - even that could be completely managed by =20 >>> newton physics - as newton 2.0 has a pretty rad magnetics engine, =20= >>> and very robust constraint, pulley and joints systems. They also =20 >>> have excellent support and tutorials. And I'm always happy to =20 >>> answer questions. >>> -TG >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:49 PM, adam mercado =20 >>> wrote: >>> I need to create a 25 second animation of a conveyor belt with =20 >>> objects being carried along and falling off the end and pilling =20 >>> up on the floor. At first thought it sounds like a job for =20 >>> Newton. It would be easy enough to hand animate the movement =20 >>> along the belt, but getting realistic - or more correctly =20 >>> believable and attractive - motion as the objects pile up would =20 >>> be very time consuming. >>> >>> My question is, for someone who has zero experience with Newton, =20 >>> would the time spent to download, install, learn and produce =20 >>> something be a wash against just doing it by hand once all is =20 >>> said and done. I would need to control certain aspects, as the =20 >>> occasional object is picked up by an operator and place into a =20 >>> box, therefore would not be managed by Newtons physics. >>> >>> Any ideas if this is a path I want to go down. I have to complete =20= >>> this tonight. >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> Adam Mercado >>> Influxx Media Production >>> Fullerton, CA >>> >>> Moving Images. For Business >>> 714=B0928=B09896 >>> http://www.influxx.com >>> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >>> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --=20 >>> _____________________________ >>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>> teddygage dot com >> > --Apple-Mail-3-900885201 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Hey thanks Rachel. That is REALLY cool. The product, the launch video = and the nifty blueprint animations you did. Love it. Exactly what I need = to do, but with lots lore objects. When you say married the the = keyframes in the master comp, could you elaborate?

I = am going to send this to my wife who is an interior designer. Think she = will find it useful and interesting.

Thanks for = sharing


On May 14, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Rachel Max = wrote:

Hey - I just did something similar using = Newton:


It=92s around = 0:40 but the whole video is worth a watch. (April fools = thing)

I couldn=92t figure out how to animate 3 = separate objects at different points in time and had only a few hours - = no time to read manuals or ask questions so I might have done this the = wrong way, but basically I animated each of the 3 chairs individually = and then married the keyframes in a main = comp. 

The result wasn=92t perfect (time) = but was certainly better than trying to = hand-keyframe.

Cheers,
Rachel




On May 14, 2014, = at 3:12 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> = wrote:

Excellent stuff Teddy. = Just watched the quick start video and the Kinekatics setting looks = great. Animated the boxes to the end of the belt and then let Newton = take over.

I'm sure i'll bug you about something or = other. Cheers !!!



On May = 14, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Teddy Gage wrote:

yes, definitely. But maybe try it with the demo first before = you purchase. But it is extremely intuitive (despite a few small = quirks). An hour's worth of tuts and maybe 20 minutes of setup and this = would be done. Not to mention a tax write off. And a crazy fun sandbox = toy...

As for the robot - even that could be = completely managed by newton physics - as newton 2.0 has a pretty rad = magnetics engine, and very robust constraint, pulley and joints systems. = They also have excellent support and tutorials. And I'm always happy to = answer questions. 
-TG


On Wed, May 14, = 2014 at 4:49 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> wrote:
I need to = create a 25 second animation of a conveyor belt with objects being = carried along and falling off the end and pilling up on the floor. At = first thought it sounds like a job for Newton. It would be easy enough = to hand animate the movement along the belt, but getting realistic - or = more correctly believable and attractive - motion as the objects pile up = would be very time consuming.

My question is, for = someone who has zero experience with Newton, would the time spent to = download, install, learn and produce something be a wash against just = doing it by hand once all is said and done. I would need to control = certain aspects, as the occasional object is picked up by an operator = and place into a box, therefore would not be managed by Newtons = physics.

Any ideas if this is a path I want to = go down. I have to complete this = tonight.

cheers

= Adam Mercado
Influxx Media = Production
Fullerton, CA

Moving = Images. For Business
714=B0928=B09896
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