Return-Path: Received: from nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.58.246] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5473614 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 15 May 2014 07:47:24 +0200 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yP2SbZ4Cv7sa3d6xvr4FcA)" Received: from [10.0.1.8] (76-14-75-21.sf-cable.astound.net [76.14.75.21]) by nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N5L00IFXPEV5F80@nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 15 May 2014 05:47:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Fwd: [AE] Conveyor belt in Newton References: <02B4BAA2-7FE2-4B19-B87A-03079B08DECD@me.com> From: Rachel Max X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D167) Message-id: <156FAA8D-F515-48C3-985B-43CF94A865C1@mac.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 22:47:21 -0700 To: After Effects Mail List X-MANTSH: 1TEIXREEbG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHxEKTEMXGx0EGx8SBBscHwQdHhAbHho fGhEKWE0XSxEKbX4XGhEKTFkXGxobGxEKWUkXEQpZXhdoY3kRCkNOF0sbHhpiTk0caBl1Whl4c wcebBofHh1hHxEKWFwXGQQaBBsbB01OHxgYGBlLBRsdBBsfEgQbHB8EHR4QGx4aHxsRCl5ZF2F bTEduEQpMRhdva2sRCkNaFx0cBBseBB0fBBgbEQpCRhdjGHxpeHhZSHpbAREKQkUXZU5FeFBOG 1JGbksRCkJOF2hGQkAfSHkdRx9kEQpCTBdnW0NDRl5wTx1mfBEKQmwXYHh5Z0BOe3xvZHwRCkJ AF2wTZmNuQF9ETQUTEQpCWBdpYUNuZ1teeV5EchEKcGcXaH5YZBISTRhLQEIRCnBoF2xHRUlHQ 0xASEYcEQpwaBdnX0lsbV99Ex58chEKcGgXemZGEhtaGn1eeWwRCnBoF2loQmtsSEFBX2JvEQp waBdsbh9NWU4aWXxEZxEKcH8XbUlcEnsBXk9sZwURCnBfF2xrWxlpGRleXFphEQpwfxdlXltDU kR/ckJFWREKcF8XbU9HTWxBWUNTc0IRCnB/F2BabWMacmAeb05jEQpwXxdlGhtuHn5wWGtfWRE KcH8XZUV7YV58bxxYcx8RCnBfF2RhQ3pQG0FYbhluEQpwfxdvHmVOWhlOGGxGfREKcF8XbR1MR 0hfb3t5HVsRCnB/F21kaU5tAU1Fe0xAEQpwXxdseUBTRHllUkloWxEKcGwXZHMfGEdHG0RceGU RCnBMF25kSVweYWcTSG9vEQ== X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-14_07:2014-05-14,2014-05-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405150082 --Boundary_(ID_yP2SbZ4Cv7sa3d6xvr4FcA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Yay! Thanks! So, I ran one sequence with one object, took the end position of that object= 1 and added it into a comp where I ran Newton on the 2nd object - and so f= orth. Feel free to email off list or perhaps we can chat. Always better than the w= riting and reading. I'm biased but Houzz is really a great product :) > On May 14, 2014, at 5:48 PM, adam mercado wrote: >=20 > Hey thanks Rachel. That is REALLY cool. The product, the launch video and t= he nifty blueprint animations you did. Love it. Exactly what I need to do, b= ut with lots lore objects. When you say married the the keyframes in the mas= ter comp, could you elaborate? >=20 > I am going to send this to my wife who is an interior designer. Think she w= ill find it useful and interesting. >=20 > Thanks for sharing >=20 > Adam Mercado > Influxx Media Production > Fullerton, CA >=20 > Moving Images. For Business > 714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896 > http://www.influxx.com > http://www.twitter.com/influxx > http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx > http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive > http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On May 14, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Rachel Max wrote: >>=20 >> Hey - I just did something similar using Newton: >>=20 >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNNM-zGV7Tg4 >>=20 >> It=E2=80=99s around 0:40 but the whole video is worth a watch. (April foo= ls thing) >>=20 >> I couldn=E2=80=99t figure out how to animate 3 separate objects at differ= ent points in time and had only a few hours - no time to read manuals or ask= questions so I might have done this the wrong way, but basically I animated= each of the 3 chairs individually and then married the keyframes in a main c= omp.=20 >>=20 >> The result wasn=E2=80=99t perfect (time) but was certainly better than tr= ying to hand-keyframe. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Rachel >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On May 14, 2014, at 3:12 PM, adam mercado wrote: >>>=20 >>> Excellent stuff Teddy. Just watched the quick start video and the Kineka= tics setting looks great. Animated the boxes to the end of the belt and then= let Newton take over. >>>=20 >>> I'm sure i'll bug you about something or other. Cheers !!! >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Adam Mercado >>> Influxx Media Production >>> Fullerton, CA >>>=20 >>> Moving Images. For Business >>> 714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896 >>> http://www.influxx.com >>> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >>> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On May 14, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> yes, definitely. But maybe try it with the demo first before you purcha= se. But it is extremely intuitive (despite a few small quirks). An hour's wo= rth of tuts and maybe 20 minutes of setup and this would be done. Not to men= tion a tax write off. And a crazy fun sandbox toy... >>>>=20 >>>> As for the robot - even that could be completely managed by newton phys= ics - as newton 2.0 has a pretty rad magnetics engine, and very robust const= raint, pulley and joints systems. They also have excellent support and tutor= ials. And I'm always happy to answer questions.=20 >>>> -TG >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:49 PM, adam mercado wrote= : >>>>> I need to create a 25 second animation of a conveyor belt with objects= being carried along and falling off the end and pilling up on the floor. At= first thought it sounds like a job for Newton. It would be easy enough to h= and animate the movement along the belt, but getting realistic - or more cor= rectly believable and attractive - motion as the objects pile up would be ve= ry time consuming. >>>>>=20 >>>>> My question is, for someone who has zero experience with Newton, would= the time spent to download, install, learn and produce something be a wash a= gainst just doing it by hand once all is said and done. I would need to cont= rol certain aspects, as the occasional object is picked up by an operator an= d place into a box, therefore would not be managed by Newtons physics. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Any ideas if this is a path I want to go down. I have to complete this= tonight. >>>>>=20 >>>>> cheers >>>>>=20 >>>>> Adam Mercado >>>>> Influxx Media Production >>>>> Fullerton, CA >>>>>=20 >>>>> Moving Images. For Business >>>>> 714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896 >>>>> http://www.influxx.com >>>>> http://www.twitter.com/influxx >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx >>>>> http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive >>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> _____________________________ >>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>> teddygage dot com >=20 --Boundary_(ID_yP2SbZ4Cv7sa3d6xvr4FcA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Yay! Thanks!

= So, I ran one sequence with one object, took the end position of that object= 1 and added it into a comp where I ran Newton on the 2nd object  - and= so forth.

Feel free to email off list or perhaps w= e can chat. Always better than the writing and reading.

=
I'm biased but Houzz is really a great product :)

On May 1= 4, 2014, at 5:48 PM, adam mercado <ad= am@influxx.com> wrote:

Hey thanks Rachel. That is REALLY cool. The product, the launch video and th= e nifty blueprint animations you did. Love it. Exactly what I need to do, bu= t with lots lore objects. When you say married the the keyframes in the mast= er comp, could you elaborate?

I am going to send this to m= y wife who is an interior designer. Think she will find it useful and intere= sting.

Thanks for sharing


On May 14, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Rachel Max wrot= e:

He= y - I just did something similar using Newton:


It=E2=80=99s around 0:40 but t= he whole video is worth a watch. (April fools thing)

I couldn=E2=80=99t figure out how to animate 3 separate objects at differe= nt points in time and had only a few hours - no time to read manuals or ask q= uestions so I might have done this the wrong way, but basically I animated e= ach of the 3 chairs individually and then married the keyframes in a main co= mp. 

The result wasn=E2=80=99t perfect (time) b= ut was certainly better than trying to hand-keyframe.

Cheers,
Rachel




On May 14, 2014, at 3:12 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> wrote:

= Excellent stuff Teddy. Just watched the quick start video and the Kinekatic= s setting looks great. Animated the boxes to the end of the belt and then le= t Newton take over.

I'm sure i'll bug you about something= or other. Cheers !!!


Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Fullerton,= CA

Moving Images= . For Business
714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896
http://www.linkedin.com/in/infl= uxx





On May 14, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Teddy G= age wrote:

yes, definitely. But maybe try it with the demo first= before you purchase. But it is extremely intuitive (despite a few small qui= rks). An hour's worth of tuts and maybe 20 minutes of setup and this would b= e done. Not to mention a tax write off. And a crazy fun sandbox toy...
<= br>
As for the robot - even that could be completely managed by ne= wton physics - as newton 2.0 has a pretty rad magnetics engine, and very rob= ust constraint, pulley and joints systems. They also have excellent support a= nd tutorials. And I'm always happy to answer questions. 
-TG=


On= Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:49 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> w= rote:
= I need to create a 25 second animation of a conveyor belt with objects bein= g carried along and falling off the end and pilling up on the floor. At firs= t thought it sounds like a job for Newton. It would be easy enough to hand a= nimate the movement along the belt, but getting realistic - or more correctl= y believable and attractive - motion as the objects pile up would be very ti= me consuming.

My question is, for someone who has zero e= xperience with Newton, would the time spent to download, install, learn and p= roduce something be a wash against just doing it by hand once all is said an= d done. I would need to control certain aspects, as the occasional object is= picked up by an operator and place into a box, therefore would not be manag= ed by Newtons physics.

Any ideas if this is a path= I want to go down. I have to complete this tonight.

cheers

Adam Mercado
Influxx= Media Production
Fullerton, CA

Moving Im= ages. For Business
714=C2=B0928=C2=B09896
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