Return-Path: Received: from p01c11o147.mxlogic.net ([208.65.144.70] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5475260 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 16 May 2014 19:34:57 +0200 Received: from unknown [216.57.150.10] (EHLO exchangecashub.crameronline.com) by p01c11o147.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id e3c46735.0.96104.00-288.248217.p01c11o147.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Fri, 16 May 2014 11:34:57 -0600 (MDT) X-MXL-Hash: 53764c416ba62fc2-97f0121ea39b076400f2a0fd8e3e6030e5ab0e6f Received: from EXCHANGEMBX.cramerdom.com ([172.16.1.55]) by EXCHANGECasHub.cramerdom.com ([172.16.1.25]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Fri, 16 May 2014 13:34:53 -0400 From: Michael Powers To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] Conveyor belt in Newton Thread-Topic: [AE] Conveyor belt in Newton Thread-Index: AQHPb8Oanu6XDq2ZwkKTZAa03reFeptDeqzw Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 17:34:52 +0000 Message-ID: <8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A862734E@EXCHANGEMBX.cramerdom.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.10.1.139] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A862734EEXCHANGEMBXcram_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.1 cv=e9OISMZ/ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=92rrH11NjGMdhXfoADi2UA==] X-AnalysisOut: [:117 a=92rrH11NjGMdhXfoADi2UA==:17 a=Ef9Q9AF2a0MA:10 a=fvH] X-AnalysisOut: [1djJbZqEA:10 a=O91693uk2i0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=G7-xRGy] X-AnalysisOut: [1AAAA:8 a=ERUe88dTAAAA:8 a=sQkoB04UAAAA:8 a=YlVTAMxIAAAA:8] X-AnalysisOut: [ a=GOYBUoI0AAAA:20 a=-RA_avEPAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=jU4] X-AnalysisOut: [qhlNgAAAA:8 a=cgvAeMUKAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=JUw6DuKwoU] X-AnalysisOut: [IVpDdck0cA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=foP282C] X-AnalysisOut: [L0ScA:10 a=ZolQrPbMFWUA:10 a=LQ4BVPkz7qgA:10 a=mpvgK5CNQkI] X-AnalysisOut: [A:10 a=fsXOodAdfUTN7JLtIHwA:9 a=YyIojvwikNtbtGlT:21 a=UiCQ] X-AnalysisOut: [7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg] X-AnalysisOut: [-hUA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10] X-Spam: [F=0.5000000000; CM=0.500; MH=0.500(2014051610); S=0.200(2014050601)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [216.57.150.10] --_000_8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A862734EEXCHANGEMBXcram_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is very funny! Nice work. From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Rachel Max Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:27 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Conveyor belt in Newton Hey - I just did something similar using Newton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNNM-zGV7Tg4 It's around 0:40 but the whole video is worth a watch. (April fools thing) I couldn't figure out how to animate 3 separate objects at different points= in time and had only a few hours - no time to read manuals or ask question= s so I might have done this the wrong way, but basically I animated each of= the 3 chairs individually and then married the keyframes in a main comp. The result wasn't perfect (time) but was certainly better than trying to ha= nd-keyframe. Cheers, Rachel On May 14, 2014, at 3:12 PM, adam mercado > wrote: Excellent stuff Teddy. Just watched the quick start video and the Kinekatic= s setting looks great. Animated the boxes to the end of the belt and then l= et Newton take over. I'm sure i'll bug you about something or other. Cheers !!! Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA Moving Images. For Business 714=B0928=B09896 http://www.influxx.com http://www.twitter.com/influxx http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx On May 14, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: yes, definitely. But maybe try it with the demo first before you purchase. = But it is extremely intuitive (despite a few small quirks). An hour's worth= of tuts and maybe 20 minutes of setup and this would be done. Not to menti= on a tax write off. And a crazy fun sandbox toy... As for the robot - even that could be completely managed by newton physics = - as newton 2.0 has a pretty rad magnetics engine, and very robust constrai= nt, pulley and joints systems. They also have excellent support and tutoria= ls. And I'm always happy to answer questions. -TG On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:49 PM, adam mercado > wrote: I need to create a 25 second animation of a conveyor belt with objects bein= g carried along and falling off the end and pilling up on the floor. At fir= st thought it sounds like a job for Newton. It would be easy enough to hand= animate the movement along the belt, but getting realistic - or more corre= ctly believable and attractive - motion as the objects pile up would be ver= y time consuming. My question is, for someone who has zero experience with Newton, would the = time spent to download, install, learn and produce something be a wash agai= nst just doing it by hand once all is said and done. I would need to contro= l certain aspects, as the occasional object is picked up by an operator and= place into a box, therefore would not be managed by Newtons physics. Any ideas if this is a path I want to go down. I have to complete this toni= ght. cheers Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA Moving Images. For Business 714=B0928=B09896 http://www.influxx.com http://www.twitter.com/influxx http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx -- _____________________________ VFX & Motion Graphic Artist teddygage dot com --_000_8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A862734EEXCHANGEMBXcram_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That is very funny! Nice = work.

 

From: After Ef= fects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Rachel Max
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:27 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Conveyor belt in Newton

 

Hey - I just did something similar using Newton:

 

 

It’s around 0:40 but the whole video is worth = a watch. (April fools thing)

 

I couldn’t figure out how to animate 3 separat= e objects at different points in time and had only a few hours - no time to= read manuals or ask questions so I might have done this the wrong way, but= basically I animated each of the 3 chairs individually and then married the keyframes in a main comp. 

 

The result wasn’t perfect (time) but was certa= inly better than trying to hand-keyframe.

 

Cheers,

Rachel

 

 

 

 

On May 14, 2014, at 3:12 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com> wrote:



Excellent stuff Teddy. Just watched the quick start = video and the Kinekatics setting looks great. Animated the boxes to the end= of the belt and then let Newton take over.

 

I'm sure i'll bug you about something or other. Chee= rs !!!

 

 

Adam Mercado

Influxx Media Production

Fullerton, CA

 

Moving Images. For Business=

714=B0928=B09896

 

 




 

On May 14, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Teddy Gage wrote:<= /o:p>



yes, definitely. But maybe try it with the demo firs= t before you purchase. But it is extremely intuitive (despite a few small q= uirks). An hour's worth of tuts and maybe 20 minutes of setup and this woul= d be done. Not to mention a tax write off. And a crazy fun sandbox toy...

 

As for the robot - even that could be completely man= aged by newton physics - as newton 2.0 has a pretty rad magnetics engine, a= nd very robust constraint, pulley and joints systems. They also have excell= ent support and tutorials. And I'm always happy to answer questions. 

-TG

 

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:49 PM, adam mercado <adam@influxx.com>= ; wrote:

I need to create a 25 second animation of a conveyor= belt with objects being carried along and falling off the end and pilling = up on the floor. At first thought it sounds like a job for Newton. It would= be easy enough to hand animate the movement along the belt, but getting realistic - or more correctly believa= ble and attractive - motion as the objects pile up would be very time consu= ming.

 

My question is, for someone who has zero experience = with Newton, would the time spent to download, install, learn and produce s= omething be a wash against just doing it by hand once all is said and done.= I would need to control certain aspects, as the occasional object is picked up by an operator and place into a box,= therefore would not be managed by Newtons physics.

 

Any ideas if this is a path I want to go down. I hav= e to complete this tonight.

 

cheers

Adam Mercado

Influxx Media Production

Fullerton, CA

 

Moving Images. For Business=

714=B0928=B09896

 

 




 



 

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