Return-Path: Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.172.220.236] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5475975 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 17 May 2014 20:35:07 +0200 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Received: from [10.0.1.8] (c-98-240-166-9.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [98.240.166.9]) by st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N5Q00C40EAHS760@st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 17 May 2014 18:35:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase References: From: Brian Klein X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D201) In-reply-to: Message-id: Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 13:35:05 -0500 To: After Effects Mail List Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-MANTSH: 1TEIXWV4bG1oaGkdHB0lGUkdDRl5PWBoaHxEKTEMXGx0EGx0YBBIZBBsTEBseGh8 aEQpYTRdLEQptfhcaEQpMWRcbGhsbEQpZSRcRClleF2hjZhEKQ04XSxseGmJCHx1SHhN9GXhzB x5iGxIZHxwbEQpYXBcZBBoEGxsHTU4fGBgYGUsFGx0EGx0YBBIZBBsTEBseGh8bEQpeWRdhWHx oGxEKTEYXYmtrEQpDWhcTEgQYHhoEGxwcBBMRCkJGF2MYfGl4eFlIelsBEQpCRRd6ZlJbZVlyT E5DbBEKQk4Xa0UaUlAeQ1xZXGgRCkJMF2BscmlSaVNPcxkfEQpCbBdoUn9dRFlMUmJgZxEKQkA XaG8cE11lQwV7eF8RCkJYF2lhQ25nW155XkRyEQpwZxd6SEFCS20ZaGNkYxEKcGgXYVJoGH9oS 0MbZXIRCnBoF2BeXE1eHnNQckROEQpwaBdhYkgeRF0SRB96WBEKcGgXYkdFRUZhWhkdeksRCnB oF2xzHE1HS2dJQ34TEQpwZxdvR0dkQV8Ta2RMBREKcGcXY11JUxtHTVpoeUsRCnBsF2Nle1BLW 0AeQR1MEQpwTBduZElcHmFnE0hvbxE= X-CLX-Spam: false X-CLX-Score: 1011 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.96,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-05-17_02:2014-05-17,2014-05-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1405170263 I would guess that much less of a percentage of Apple's revenue comes from s= oftware, though. If true, it would still be a bigger chunk of their bottom l= ine than Apple's, and therefore a more important part of their business. > On May 17, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >=20 > Less than half of adobes revenue comes from the CC software.=20 >=20 >> On May 17, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Brian Klein wrote: >>=20 >> I think the $49.99 rate is what they have always said it was going to be,= wasn't it? I feel like it's maybe a tad too expensive, and I wish they woul= d break it out into app groups. I don't use any of the web apps, and it feel= s like I am paying for them, therefore I feel a bit cheated. But software is= all Adobe makes (I think, at least...) So it's their only source of income.= Apple makes more money by selling the computers/devices, so they can afford= to price their software lower. I think that's why we are seeing such a diff= erence in the pricing between the two companies. >>=20 >> Also, to maybe make a bit more of a fair comparison between Adobe and App= le apps, you would add Logic Pro X and Aperature to your price. (And that st= ill wouldn't include high-end color grading, web development, or Photoshop a= nd Illustrator replacements.) However, the nice thing about that is you don'= t have to buy them if you don't need them. And you only need to buy them onc= e. And it doesn't appear they are going to charge for updates.=20 >>=20 >> My 2=C2=A2. >>=20 >> Brian Klein >>=20 >>> On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>=20 >>> I knew the first year was an introductory rate, but I got notice today m= y monthly rate was going to increase to $49.99/mo. from $29.99. >>>=20 >>> That's a pretty steep hike. I was expecting more along the lines of $39= .99, maybe without good reasons for it. >>>=20 >>> So, this puts the annual rate at $600. I was used to paying that every o= ther year as an upgrade to the Production Premium bundle. >>>=20 >>> I still don't think that's an outrageous price, and it's deductible to m= e, but I think this plays into some fears that some people had when Adobe an= nounced their subscription model. After all, you can still buy a permanent l= icense of Motion, Compressor and FCP for $400, and upgrades are included. >>>=20 >>> What do you think? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> . >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to