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Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase
From: Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 13:54:50 -0500
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I agree with all your points, Brian.  It's not entirely fair to compare =
Apple to Adobe, because Apple sells software as a loss leader.  However, =
to Apple hardware customers, it's very fair to compare what we're paying =
for software, and what we get out of it.

I don't think the Apple software compares favorably to Adobe right now.  =
I played with the demo and read good things about FCPX, but I also read =
that Motion isn't a design tool as Ae is, and that Compressor isn't as =
efficient as AME (all of which is subject to change).  I can't imagine =
switching over to Apple software from Adobe as long as I'm making a =
living on post work, and Adobe maintains superiority on the tools I use.

After I retire, though (hopefully not too far off), I can't imagine =
paying $600/year for something I can get for $400 or $500 long term for =
what will likely be pro bono or hobbyist projects. =20

Trying to do superior work with inferior tools is just the kind of =
challenge I like to take on.  :)


On May 17, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Brian Klein <klein.brian@icloud.com> wrote:

> I think the $49.99 rate is what they have always said it was going to =
be, wasn't it? I feel like it's maybe a tad too expensive, and I wish =
they would break it out into app groups. I don't use any of the web =
apps, and it feels like I am paying for them, therefore I feel a bit =
cheated. But software is all Adobe makes (I think, at least...) So it's =
their only source of income. Apple makes more money by selling the =
computers/devices, so they can afford to price their software lower. I =
think that's why we are seeing such a difference in the pricing between =
the two companies.
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> Also, to maybe make a bit more of a fair comparison between Adobe and =
Apple apps, you would add Logic Pro X and Aperature to your price. (And =
that still wouldn't include high-end color grading, web development, or =
Photoshop and Illustrator replacements.) However, the nice thing about =
that is you don't have to buy them if you don't need them. And you only =
need to buy them once. And it doesn't appear they are going to charge =
for updates.=20
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> My 2=A2.
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> Brian Klein
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>> On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
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>> I knew the first year was an introductory rate, but I got notice =
today my monthly rate was going to increase to $49.99/mo. from $29.99.
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>> That's a pretty steep hike.  I was expecting more along the lines of =
$39.99, maybe without good reasons for it.
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>> So, this puts the annual rate at $600.  I was used to paying that =
every other year as an upgrade to the Production Premium bundle.
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>> I still don't think that's an outrageous price, and it's deductible =
to me, but I think this plays into some fears that some people had when =
Adobe announced their subscription model.  After all, you can still buy =
a permanent license of Motion, Compressor and FCP for $400, and upgrades =
are included.
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>> What do you think?
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