Return-Path: Received: from nm23-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.213.141] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5475989 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 17 May 2014 21:06:12 +0200 Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2014 19:06:10 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.216] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2014 19:06:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2014 19:06:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 626250.40081.bm@omp1025.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 42650 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2014 19:06:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1400353570; bh=qHWafv+YiCVJ3byQlTn2tOle3HkN5uWqRjT3AIz8kmg=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b+NdUdIVRwz8fWyWzu2W9Fkf8WMpUZgHwuyU05PsMRu61lt3+EmDSkTJ10xcu+bp88yg3B8YU7Nof6WmbhCtivJlM2xVwhd118vz385rSWoxCMqPYSSF+/W+cjDoCgYvVVRgx1hxCU172+HFmvmQm89eEvoZxXY3AZMlZVt23XQ= X-YMail-OSG: n8uo0WkVM1koOeIWXfqYNjTIx424WXTZ3_eEzN6k9oYuMW_ X7s3O.eNSAn7_6tH7cjZz4XD1ZXnlfJfqtA_LuQaXWJlrNnPh0F3kid8l9Lz gOCTjV4cTAyIMifpg6DzhYkPejEk5akTdUAsWtPwwl7cDamegl1GZCPwDWjo QyfMAyxDPgxZycoUJPNdpgFH943FzvFvQkMyIV5vlj15Xe2vy.Hve9MnUNXt IdI_vTw7q4WIlOTbe9NSUxHTlExRTOd6N8XA_4gKXumZ9isOYa4pjVQG4FFl X3JmZx2y4fZYzrmJ6oaXRWurSJr8m6eV3MPr2YaOFNJBqPnMwq8hals2.Wl_ 4uaZ.qVVdwZ11n_BnYv8TGbq5x2QrAd0X3COmbYc0sPMKqGBYyNa_6fTzyZj KFH3OW_Lzf87Dckrw_pi271Xc3QjTQg13_kvN6xNkuLXMc5JUICcJbQ9kePr HLaOcj2.be5VnUUl.kGNs6O.prBBF6K4iXosOi.jZhSVwiTu2q.3Jm2KJkMX CL..bZ6ADgR1skoNzXW3x9c1mAIMMFMqy4i6ZUBZr7g-- Received: from [99.181.59.25] by web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 May 2014 12:06:10 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,QXZpZCBqdXN0IGNhbWUgb3V0IHdpdGggc3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyB0b28sICQzOS45OS9tb250aCBmb3IgdGhlIGZpcnN0IHllYXIsICQ0OSBhZnRlci4gWW91IGdldCBleHRyYSBCb3JpcyBlZmZlY3RzLCBhIHRpdGxlciwgYW5kIFNxdWVlemUgbGl0ZSwgYnV0IG5vIHRvbiBvZiBsb29zZWx5IHJlbGF0ZWQgc29mdHdhcmUuIAoKCgoKCj5fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo.IEZyb206IFJlbmRlcm55YyA8cmVuZGVybnljQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4KPlRvOiBBZnRlciBFZmZlY3RzIE1haWwgTGkBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.188.663 References: Message-ID: <1400353570.50949.YahooMailNeo@web160406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 12:06:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Young Reply-To: Rich Young Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1741458154-1963138218-1400353570=:50949" --1741458154-1963138218-1400353570=:50949 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avid just came out with subscriptions too, $39.99/month for the first year,= $49 after. You get extra Boris effects, a titler, and Squeeze lite, but no= ton of loosely related software. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A>______________________= __________=0A> From: Rendernyc =0A>To: After Effects M= ail List =0A>Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 2:31 PM= =0A>Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase=0A> =0A>=0A>Less than = half of adobes revenue comes from the CC software. =0A>=0A>> On May 17, 201= 4, at 2:22 PM, Brian Klein wrote:=0A>> =0A>> I thi= nk the $49.99 rate is what they have always said it was going to be, wasn't= it? I feel like it's maybe a tad too expensive, and I wish they would brea= k it out into app groups. I don't use any of the web apps, and it feels lik= e I am paying for them, therefore I feel a bit cheated. But software is all= Adobe makes (I think, at least...) So it's their only source of income. Ap= ple makes more money by selling the computers/devices, so they can afford t= o price their software lower. I think that's why we are seeing such a diffe= rence in the pricing between the two companies.=0A>> =0A>> Also, to maybe m= ake a bit more of a fair comparison between Adobe and Apple apps, you would= add Logic Pro X and Aperature to your price. (And that still wouldn't incl= ude high-end color grading, web development, or Photoshop and Illustrator r= eplacements.) However, the nice thing about that is you don't have to buy t= hem if you don't need them. And you only need to buy them once. And it does= n't appear they are going to charge for updates. =0A>> =0A>> My 2=A2.=0A>> = =0A>> Brian Klein=0A>> =0A>>> On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:=0A>>> =0A>>> I knew the first year was an introductory= rate, but I got notice today my monthly rate was going to increase to $49.= 99/mo. from $29.99.=0A>>> =0A>>> That's a pretty steep hike.=A0 I was expec= ting more along the lines of $39.99, maybe without good reasons for it.=0A>= >> =0A>>> So, this puts the annual rate at $600.=A0 I was used to paying th= at every other year as an upgrade to the Production Premium bundle.=0A>>> = =0A>>> I still don't think that's an outrageous price, and it's deductible = to me, but I think this plays into some fears that some people had when Ado= be announced their subscription model.=A0 After all, you can still buy a pe= rmanent license of Motion, Compressor and FCP for $400, and upgrades are in= cluded.=0A>>> =0A>>> What do you think?=0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> .=0A>>> = =0A>>> +---End of message---+=0A>>> To unsubscribe send any message to =0A>> =0A>> +---End of message---+=0A>> To unsubsc= ribe send any message to =0A>=0A>+---End of me= ssage---+=0A>To unsubscribe send any message to =0A>=0A> --1741458154-1963138218-1400353570=:50949 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<= span style=3D"" class=3D"">Avid just came out with subscriptions too, $39.99/month for the first year, $49 after. You get extra Boris effects, = a titler, and Squeeze lite, but no ton of loosely related software.
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From: Rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com>
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Less than half of adobes revenue comes from the CC software.

> On M= ay 17, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Brian Klein <k= lein.brian@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> I think the $49.99 rate is what they have always sai= d it was going to be, wasn't it? I feel like it's maybe a tad too expensive= , and I wish they would break it out into app groups. I don't use any of th= e web apps, and it feels like I am paying for them, therefore I feel a bit = cheated. But software is all Adobe makes (I think, at least...) So it's the= ir only source of income. Apple makes more money by selling the computers/d= evices, so they can afford to price their software lower. I think that's wh= y we are seeing such a difference in the pricing between the two companies.=
>
> Also, to mayb= e make a bit more of a fair comparison between Adobe and Apple apps, you would add Logic Pro X and Ape= rature to your price. (And that still wouldn't include high-end color gradi= ng, web development, or Photoshop and Illustrator replacements.) However, t= he nice thing about that is you don't have to buy them if you don't need th= em. And you only need to buy them once. And it doesn't appear they are goin= g to charge for updates.
>
> My 2=A2.
>
> Brian Klein
>
= >> On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Jim Curtis <jp= curtis@me.com> wrote:
>>
>> I knew the first year was an introductory rate, but = I got notice today my monthly rate was going to increase to $49.99/mo. from= $29.99.
>>
>> That's a pretty ste= ep hike.  I was expecting more along the lines of $39.99, maybe withou= t good reasons for it.
>>
>> So, this puts the annual rate at $600.  I was used to= paying that every other year as an upgrade to the Production Premium bundl= e.
>>
>> I s= till don't think that's an outrageous price, and it's deductible to me, but= I think this plays into some fears that some people had when Adobe announc= ed their subscription model.  After all, you can still buy a permanent= license of Motion, Compressor and FCP for $400, and upgrades are included.=
>>
>> What = do you think?
>>
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