Return-Path: Received: from mail-qg0-f47.google.com ([209.85.192.47] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5476020 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 17 May 2014 21:11:54 +0200 Received: by mail-qg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id j107so6299998qga.20 for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 12:11:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=CL8XbuaDlbW3iGEM10nYS2S+xkiqubIg2lsG9/EOovw=; b=lQlf4xoxYidg5/j9CIL1qsnqhNYjzG6KpzZz6zxJ3SutXX+xU5L57h/5XGV6uOXQ54 18MBGDnXoQGwGYFfcpTtzQQcn1iyDo8OQZLchHYHcN0pbvgPmY3njfqlJ9VxzxWhYZwD 8fABsWnXkmb8sy3qW2ec/lrpZVkktsGXtp+xXkHdwMJ1OIVMaOK6QgBFCzRfolEC1evu /r0BUe7PwHkoUEU5ipg14V2DJcV4MK1WM4TJqHZatxNhEP0v4hMQrz138W3rNgYNO4TL zfRG+BLv0dFva6RWkLzqvfia9S06vGlBSFqGM6sXhLjJsBjUcvA7k+WwUzJ4wGQfLEwS e5MA== X-Received: by 10.229.54.201 with SMTP id r9mr36693218qcg.6.1400353913171; Sat, 17 May 2014 12:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.32] (cpe-24-90-203-116.nyc.res.rr.com. [24.90.203.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j5sm19037301qai.34.2014.05.17.12.11.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 17 May 2014 12:11:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Rendernyc From: Rendernyc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15A22574-126B-48EA-B919-A2E4610FF530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase Message-Id: <7901FF09-97E2-47F1-9A8D-CF48F5B77CD5@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:11:51 -0400 References: In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D167) --Apple-Mail-15A22574-126B-48EA-B919-A2E4610FF530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 24% is adobe marketing cloud. And that's expected to be 30% next quarter. I d= on't see an exact number for CC here=20 http://www.adobe.com/news-room/pressreleases/201403/031814Q1FY2014results.ht= ml but it's probably around 27% or so with a rough guess That's of $1billion in revenue for first quarter 2014 > On May 17, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >=20 > Interesting. What is their other source of revenue? >=20 >=20 >> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >> Less than half of adobes revenue comes from the CC software. >>=20 >> > On May 17, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Brian Klein wrote= : >> > >> > I think the $49.99 rate is what they have always said it was going to b= e, wasn't it? I feel like it's maybe a tad too expensive, and I wish they wo= uld break it out into app groups. I don't use any of the web apps, and it fe= els like I am paying for them, therefore I feel a bit cheated. But software i= s all Adobe makes (I think, at least...) So it's their only source of income= . Apple makes more money by selling the computers/devices, so they can affor= d to price their software lower. I think that's why we are seeing such a dif= ference in the pricing between the two companies. >> > >> > Also, to maybe make a bit more of a fair comparison between Adobe and A= pple apps, you would add Logic Pro X and Aperature to your price. (And that s= till wouldn't include high-end color grading, web development, or Photoshop a= nd Illustrator replacements.) However, the nice thing about that is you don'= t have to buy them if you don't need them. And you only need to buy them onc= e. And it doesn't appear they are going to charge for updates. >> > >> > My 2=C2=A2. >> > >> > Brian Klein >> > >> >> On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >> >> >> >> I knew the first year was an introductory rate, but I got notice today= my monthly rate was going to increase to $49.99/mo. from $29.99. >> >> >> >> That's a pretty steep hike. I was expecting more along the lines of $= 39.99, maybe without good reasons for it. >> >> >> >> So, this puts the annual rate at $600. I was used to paying that ever= y other year as an upgrade to the Production Premium bundle. >> >> >> >> I still don't think that's an outrageous price, and it's deductible to= me, but I think this plays into some fears that some people had when Adobe a= nnounced their subscription model. After all, you can still buy a permanent= license of Motion, Compressor and FCP for $400, and upgrades are included. >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > >> > +---End of message---+ >> > To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com --Apple-Mail-15A22574-126B-48EA-B919-A2E4610FF530 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
24% is adobe marketing cloud. And that's expected to be 30% next quarter= . I don't see an exact number for CC here 
http://www.adobe.com/news-room/= pressreleases/201403/031814Q1FY2014results.html but it's probably around= 27% or so with a rough guess

That's of $1billion in revenue for first quarter 2014
On May 17, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

Intere= sting. What is their other source of revenue?


On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Render= nyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
Less than half of adobes revenue comes from th= e CC software.

> On May 17, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Brian Klein <klein.brian@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> I think the $49.99 rate is what they have always said it was going to b= e, wasn't it? I feel like it's maybe a tad too expensive, and I wish they wo= uld break it out into app groups. I don't use any of the web apps, and it fe= els like I am paying for them, therefore I feel a bit cheated. But software i= s all Adobe makes (I think, at least...) So it's their only source of income= . Apple makes more money by selling the computers/devices, so they can affor= d to price their software lower. I think that's why we are seeing such a dif= ference in the pricing between the two companies.
>
> Also, to maybe make a bit more of a fair comparison between Adobe and A= pple apps, you would add Logic Pro X and Aperature to your price. (And that s= till wouldn't include high-end color grading, web development, or Photoshop a= nd Illustrator replacements.) However, the nice thing about that is you don'= t have to buy them if you don't need them. And you only need to buy them onc= e. And it doesn't appear they are going to charge for updates.
>
> My 2=C2=A2.
>
> Brian Klein
>
>> On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
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>> I knew the first year was an introductory rate, but I got notice to= day my monthly rate was going to increase to $49.99/mo. from $29.99.
>>
>> That's a pretty steep hike.  I was expecting more along the li= nes of $39.99, maybe without good reasons for it.
>>
>> So, this puts the annual rate at $600.  I was used to paying t= hat every other year as an upgrade to the Production Premium bundle.
>>
>> I still don't think that's an outrageous price, and it's deductible= to me, but I think this plays into some fears that some people had when Ado= be announced their subscription model.  After all, you can still buy a p= ermanent license of Motion, Compressor and FCP for $400, and upgrades are in= cluded.
>>
>> What do you think?
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