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Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase
From: Jim Feeley <jfeeley@gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 13:46:04 -0700
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1) Let me first say I love that this conversation has remained =
constructive, with insights/disagreements being stated clearly and =
without bile (and accepted the same way). I can think of many other =
lists & forums where that would not be the case. Yay AE-L!

2) Teddy, I think Adobe makes a fair amount of money from Omniture and =
other enterprise tools, Marketing Cloud, Acrobat and other document =
tools, Elements consumer stuff, PostScript licensing, and, um=85 other =
stuff (ask The Google).

3) I=92d guess that if CC subscriptions fall as the $49.99 price becomes =
more universal, Adobe could make adjustments with lower prices and =
narrower bundles. Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. But =
as long as it=92s lower than our ISP and mobile bills, it=92s just =
another monthly charge that most of us will deal with.=20

So says Mr. Obvious here...

jim feeley
pov media
word image sound


On May 17, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting. What is their other source of revenue?
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> Less than half of adobes revenue comes from the CC software.
>=20
> > On May 17, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Brian Klein <klein.brian@icloud.com> =
wrote:
> >
> > I think the $49.99 rate is what they have always said it was going =
to be, wasn't it? I feel like it's maybe a tad too expensive, and I wish =
they would break it out into app groups. I don't use any of the web =
apps, and it feels like I am paying for them, therefore I feel a bit =
cheated. But software is all Adobe makes (I think, at least...) So it's =
their only source of income. Apple makes more money by selling the =
computers/devices, so they can afford to price their software lower. I =
think that's why we are seeing such a difference in the pricing between =
the two companies.
> >
> > Also, to maybe make a bit more of a fair comparison between Adobe =
and Apple apps, you would add Logic Pro X and Aperature to your price. =
(And that still wouldn't include high-end color grading, web =
development, or Photoshop and Illustrator replacements.) However, the =
nice thing about that is you don't have to buy them if you don't need =
them. And you only need to buy them once. And it doesn't appear they are =
going to charge for updates.
> >
> > My 2=A2.
> >
> > Brian Klein
> >
> >> On May 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I knew the first year was an introductory rate, but I got notice =
today my monthly rate was going to increase to $49.99/mo. from $29.99.
> >>
> >> That's a pretty steep hike.  I was expecting more along the lines =
of $39.99, maybe without good reasons for it.
> >>
> >> So, this puts the annual rate at $600.  I was used to paying that =
every other year as an upgrade to the Production Premium bundle.
> >>
> >> I still don't think that's an outrageous price, and it's deductible =
to me, but I think this plays into some fears that some people had when =
Adobe announced their subscription model.  After all, you can still buy =
a permanent license of Motion, Compressor and FCP for $400, and upgrades =
are included.
> >>
> >> What do you think?