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Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase
From: Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 16:18:44 -0500
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Great questions and observation, Robert.

Adobe's incentive is more and happier customers.  I glean from the Adobe =
Forums that there's a segment that finds the pricing out of their reach. =
 A lower tier of fewer products might snag a lot of new customers.

I see many of the leading plug-in companies bundling lately.  Why?

The only competition I know for Ae now is very expensive. Other than Ai, =
many of the other products have worthy competitors.  As soon as a big =
company gets smug about a product line, it seems like that's an opening =
for an upstart company to move in and make a challenge.

It's in Adobe's interest to keep the customers they have loyal and =
happy, and to draw in new, young customers who may have a long shelf =
life.


On May 17, 2014, at 2:05 PM, "Robert W. Walker" =
<robertw@walkersound.com> wrote:

> A good idea, Jim, but I'm not thinking Adobe is that magnanimous. The
> fact is there is a huge user base that is not likely to switch to an
> alternative (which would be what?) unless the price becomes =
outrageous.
> What would be Adobe's incentive to implement tiered bundles/pricing?
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>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase
>> From: Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
>> Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 2:35 pm
>> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
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>> I wasn't aware of that, Todd.  I didn't pay attention to what others =
were paying.  Perhaps I got a special rate for being a long term =
customer.
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>> Anyway=85 as I said, it's not outrageous at $600/year for all those =
apps, even though that's about twice what I was used to paying to stay =
current with Production Premium CS. =20
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>> I'm also paying for a lot of apps that I don't use.  That's like my =
health insurance going up to cover people who use services I don't.  I'm =
sure not going to start building web sites just because the software to =
do it is available in my bundle.
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>> If it's not unrealistic, I'd rather Adobe offered tiered services, =
and had a bundle like Production Premium at a lesser rate.  Or, some =
sort of pro-rata pricing that's based on the software I use on a regular =
basis.  I just counted 14 apps I don't think I'll ever use.
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>> On May 17, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Todd Kopriva <kopriva@adobe.com> wrote:
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>>> Jim, the $29.99/month was an introductory rate for the first year =
for some
>>> folks, apparently including you. $49.99/month has always been the =
regular
>>> price for an annual commitment.
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>>> There is no price increase.
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>>> On 17/05/2014 10:04, "Jim Curtis" <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
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>>>> I knew the first year was an introductory rate, but I got notice =
today my
>>>> monthly rate was going to increase to $49.99/mo. from $29.99.
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>>>> That's a pretty steep hike.  I was expecting more along the lines =
of
>>>> $39.99, maybe without good reasons for it.
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>>>> So, this puts the annual rate at $600.  I was used to paying that =
every
>>>> other year as an upgrade to the Production Premium bundle.
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>>>> I still don't think that's an outrageous price, and it's deductible =
to
>>>> me, but I think this plays into some fears that some people had =
when
>>>> Adobe announced their subscription model.  After all, you can still =
buy a
>>>> permanent license of Motion, Compressor and FCP for $400, and =
upgrades
>>>> are included.
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>>>> What do you think?
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